From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stefan Monnier " Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: hlin@crescentec.com Date: 13 Dec 2002 18:52:50 -0500 Organization: Yale University Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <5lwumdfpd9.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> References: <3DFA4284.3080909@ihs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1039824491 14403 80.91.224.249 (14 Dec 2002 00:08:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 00:08:11 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18Mzqk-0003k5-00 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2002 01:08:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18MzoG-0004qE-0D for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 19:05:36 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.ycc.yale.edu!rum.cs.yale.edu!rum.cs.yale.edu Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 17 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: rum.cs.yale.edu User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: rum.cs.yale.edu X-Original-Trace: 13 Dec 2002 18:52:50 -0500, rum.cs.yale.edu Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:108121 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:4651 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:4651 >>>>> "David" == David Kastrup writes: > Same here. I checked the web page of the company and sent the web > manager listed as contact a mail too, and he said he would contact > their mail administrators (whether this will help much, I have no idea > since the respective user probably is subscribed at gnu.org and they > would have to unsubscribe him). The problem is not with the user being subscribed at gnu.org. The problem with crescentec.com using a brain-dead pseudo-bounce message and sending it to the wrong address. If they fix their software to stop trying to be clever and to just do things the normal way, then the bounces will be sent to the gnu.org mailing-list maintainer (rather than to the posters) which will then have a chance to auto-unsubscribe or do something with it. Stefan