From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stefan Monnier " Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: State of the art in Emacs outlining? Date: 01 Oct 2002 11:00:44 -0400 Organization: Yale University Sender: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <5llm5ijjab.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1033485490 25614 127.0.0.1 (1 Oct 2002 15:18:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 15:18:10 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17wOmm-0006eq-00 for ; Tue, 01 Oct 2002 17:18:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17wOn0-0000Dz-00; Tue, 01 Oct 2002 11:18:22 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!nntp.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!news.ycc.yale.edu!rum.cs.yale.edu!rum.cs.yale.edu Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 14 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: rum.cs.yale.edu User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: rum.cs.yale.edu X-Original-Trace: 1 Oct 2002 11:00:45 -0400, rum.cs.yale.edu Original-Xref: nntp.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:105596 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:2144 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:2144 >>>>> "Tom" == Tom Davey writes: > Thanks to you and Kai for your replies. The advice is sound -- learn > standard outlining first, and then worry about enhanced packages once I > figure out what else I need. My worry is that I already know what I > need: easier repositioning of items and trees (demoting/promoting), > which allout.el and others packages seem to promise. But really I'm just > guessing, so I'll be patient. The outline.el code in the CVS repository offers such functionality, although it might be a bit fragile. I'd be interested to hear how well it works in practice for others than me. Stefan