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From: goncholden <goncholden@protonmail.com>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Spaces rather than tabs by a major mode hook
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2022 21:56:01 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5lO61DyUB07ImkgO405EHVwZry2eSsg7Z76zJkIXjySv0lBUIRMMmdUbN6hGlJiLPdtg0s2Dwsau1xdJW9pzcExKhNcT8e-m_WUaf3AGIM8=@protonmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ee3beca0-2120-4727-fd21-032b718f6eaf@yandex.ru>



------- Original Message -------
On Sunday, June 12th, 2022 at 9:36 AM, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru> wrote:


> On 12.06.2022 00:17, goncholden wrote:
>
> > I have tried that. You get encouraged it might work. Until you press return on the end of the line. Then emacs deletes all the tabs.
>
>
> Aaand you can disable 'electric-indent-mode' to get rid of this behavior.
>
> > Emacs should have a minor-mode or settings that only keep the highlighting for the specific major-mode, and allows the user
> > to format as one pleases.
>
>
> The general expectation is that our users's projects adhere to some
> common rules WRT indentation, with only a few parameters varying between
> them (which can be customized). When that holds, Emacs's way is way more
> efficient in practice.

That expectation is wrong for legacy code, particularly in fortran.

> And when one works on a rare exception, they can tweak their config
> accordingly. A minor mode could be helpful, I suppose, but the
> customizations I suggested are fairly easy to do already.

They are easy to do but they are not enough.  Because at some deep level emacs expectation users's projects to adhere to a sytle.  That only works for single person works or multi-person works who actually adhere to a style.  In this files, the style they adhere to relate only to naming conventions and that code is uppercase.  And obviously, that usual column position rules.




  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-11 21:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-09 13:58 Spaces rather than tabs by a major mode hook goncholden via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-06-09 15:12 ` Yuri Khan
2022-06-09 15:30   ` goncholden
2022-06-09 15:46     ` Yuri Khan
2022-06-09 16:08       ` goncholden
2022-06-09 16:34         ` Yuri Khan
2022-06-10 23:17           ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-11  0:05             ` goncholden
2022-06-11  7:35               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-09 18:13     ` goncholden
2022-06-09 19:15       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-09 19:16       ` Drew Adams
2022-06-09 19:24       ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-09 19:40         ` goncholden
2022-06-09 19:54           ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-10  5:39             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-10  5:46               ` goncholden
2022-06-10  6:08                 ` Po Lu
2022-06-10  6:11                   ` goncholden
2022-06-10  6:31                   ` tomas
2022-06-10  6:41                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-10  7:42                   ` goncholden
2022-06-10  7:50                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-10  8:31                       ` goncholden
2022-06-10 10:49                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-10 18:10                           ` goncholden
2022-06-10 19:33                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-10 19:40                               ` goncholden
2022-06-10 19:44                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-10 19:52                                   ` goncholden
2022-06-10 19:56                                     ` goncholden
2022-06-11  7:20                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11  7:30                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-11  7:57                                           ` tomas
2022-06-11  8:26                                             ` goncholden
2022-06-11 15:35                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-11  7:19                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11  8:17                                       ` goncholden
2022-06-11  8:40                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11  8:57                                           ` goncholden
2022-06-11 10:10                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11 10:20                                               ` goncholden
2022-06-11 10:33                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11 11:15                                                   ` goncholden
2022-06-11 11:50                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11 20:02                                                       ` goncholden
2022-06-12  2:24                                                         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-12  3:16                                                           ` goncholden
2022-06-12  6:06                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12  6:40                                                               ` goncholden
2022-06-12  7:02                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12  7:49                                                                   ` goncholden
2022-06-12  8:06                                                                     ` Po Lu
2022-06-12  8:35                                                                       ` goncholden
2022-06-12  6:40                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12  7:29                                                           ` goncholden
2022-06-12  6:53                                                         ` Po Lu
2022-06-12  7:06                                                           ` goncholden
2022-06-12  7:18                                                             ` Po Lu
2022-06-12  7:54                                                               ` goncholden
2022-06-12 18:13                                                             ` Netiquette is way to go Jean Louis
2022-06-12 23:25                                                               ` goncholden
2022-06-13  4:53                                                                 ` Jean Louis
2022-06-13  6:25                                                                   ` goncholden
2022-06-13  6:26                                                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-13  7:17                                                                 ` Po Lu
2022-06-13  7:41                                                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-13  7:43                                                                   ` Jean Louis
2022-06-13  9:18                                                                     ` goncholden
2022-06-13  9:29                                                                       ` Po Lu
2022-06-13 10:39                                                                         ` goncholden
2022-06-13 11:48                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-13 13:17                                                                         ` goncholden
2022-06-13 21:05                                                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-14  4:43                                                                           ` tomas
2022-06-14 10:08                                                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-13 15:42                                                                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-12  7:13                                                           ` Spaces rather than tabs by a major mode hook Po Lu
2022-06-12  7:29                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12  8:29                                                               ` goncholden
2022-06-12  8:36                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12  9:14                                                                   ` goncholden
2022-06-12  8:45                                                                 ` Po Lu
2022-06-12  9:02                                                                   ` goncholden
2022-06-12 18:21                                                               ` Jean Louis
2022-06-12 23:29                                                                 ` goncholden
2022-06-13  3:03                                                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-13  5:39                                                                   ` Jean Louis
2022-06-13  6:24                                                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-13  6:33                                                                     ` goncholden
2022-06-13 15:17                                                                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-12 17:10                                                         ` Jean Louis
2022-06-12 20:18                                                           ` goncholden
2022-06-12 20:41                                                           ` goncholden
2022-06-12 22:42                                                             ` Jean Louis
2022-06-13  6:18                                                               ` goncholden
2022-06-13  6:18                                                               ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-13 15:17                                                               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-13 11:55                                                         ` Andreas Röhler
2022-06-13 12:12                                                           ` goncholden
2022-06-11 10:39                                                 ` goncholden
2022-06-11 21:00                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-06-11 21:17                                                     ` goncholden
2022-06-11 21:36                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-06-11 21:56                                                         ` goncholden [this message]
2022-06-12  0:07                                                           ` goncholden
2022-06-12  0:19                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-06-12  0:35                                                               ` goncholden
2022-06-12  1:05                                                                 ` goncholden
2022-06-11  4:58             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-11 14:53               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-11 15:39                 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-10 23:03   ` Emanuel Berg

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