From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stefan Monnier" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How can I do these in Emacs? Date: 19 Apr 2003 17:40:52 -0400 Organization: Yale University Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <5l4r4ukvx7.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> References: <5l8yu6l2zu.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1050789059 30227 80.91.224.249 (19 Apr 2003 21:50:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 21:50:59 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 19 23:50:57 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1970Eb-0007rP-00 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 2003 23:50:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 1970EA-0007Sc-03 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Apr 2003 17:50:30 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.ycc.yale.edu!rum.cs.yale.edu!rum.cs.yale.edu Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 15 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: rum.cs.yale.edu User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: rum.cs.yale.edu X-Original-Trace: 19 Apr 2003 17:40:52 -0400, rum.cs.yale.edu Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:112128 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:8627 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:8627 >> You might also want to try M-x viper-mode RET. It's supposed to be >> pretty good. > That's like enjoying the Far East cuisine by booking a ticket to Hong > Kong and arranging for visiting all available MacDonalds restaurants > during the stay. [ I had started writing the paragraph below and then figured it wasn't worth the trouble. Oh well! ] AFAIK viper-mode is not just "A pill to make Emacs acceptable to those who like VI". I know several hardcore Emacs users who swear by viper-mode. Some of them had never even used vi before. Stefan "who doesn't use viper-mode"