From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stefan Monnier " Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Help: ISPELL and Aqua EMACS (OSX) Date: 25 Nov 2002 14:22:15 -0500 Organization: Yale University Sender: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <5l3cpppi8o.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> References: <5lhee5pueq.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <5l7kf1plq1.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1038252884 14315 80.91.224.249 (25 Nov 2002 19:34:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 19:34:44 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18GP0B-0003iF-00 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 20:34:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18GP1r-0000zT-00; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 14:36:23 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.ycc.yale.edu!rum.cs.yale.edu!rum.cs.yale.edu Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 26 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: rum.cs.yale.edu User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: rum.cs.yale.edu X-Original-Trace: 25 Nov 2002 14:22:15 -0500, rum.cs.yale.edu Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:107442 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:3993 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:3993 >> I'm not talking about my "shell environment" but about my >> environment, > As defined by shell variables -- thus, "shell environment". No, environment variables are not the same as shell variables. Shells muddy up the distinction between the two, so people often don't understand that they are different, but think about what `export' in bash and `setenv' in tcsh do. > If you launch Emacs.app from a shell, directly or indirectly, you'll > get what you want. If you launch it from the Finder, you won't. I > don't know what else to tell you. I fully understand that, but I want to set my locale and other env-vars at one place and have them apply to all processes, whether launched from a shell or not. Hence my question: where can I setup my environment other than in my .login since the .login is not always invoked ? Stefan PS: XDM used to have the same kind of brain-damage. I believe recent RedHat configs fix that by always sourcing the .login when starting up an X session such that those settings are then inherited by all processes without the need to start them from a shell.