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envelope-from=jfenn@gmx.net; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:145003 Archived-At: Am 29.08.23 um 00:08 Uhr schrieb Stephen Berman: > On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 23:42:04 +0200 Juergen Fenn wrote: > >> Am 28.08.23 um 23:13 Uhr schrieb Stephen Berman: >>> You can customize apropos-sort-by-scores with M-x customize-option in >>> Emacs 29 (and 30), but apropos.el has to be loaded for Customize to >>> recognize the variable. So you can do e.g. `M-x apropos' and the `M-x >>> customize-option apr TAB s TAB will complete to the variable and you c= an >>> customize it. >> >> Thank you for this hint. In fact, I was not aware that navigating in >> this way to the full variable name would lead you to a different >> "target" than, e.g., M-x describe-variable, or M-x customize-variable >> without completing the search term by apropos. > > Completion with M-x describe-variable (aka C-h v) in effect searches all > Emacs Lisp libraries to find completion candidates, while > customize-variable just examines loaded libraries. Calling M-x apropos > just loads the library (you could also use e.g. M-x load-library RET > apropos), you don't need to enter search terms to subsequently get > customize-variable to recognize options in the loaded library. Steve, I must say, it _is_ fascinating to see how complex Emacs has been crafted to what is is today. I used to write my thesis back then with NTEmacs and then, after switching to the Mac, I first used Carbon Emacs, and then Aquamacs. Now I am on an all new Emacs 29.1, and I am only beginning to understand how it all fits together, configuring a "Vanilla Emacs" from scratch. When is comes to search, I did only C-s for years. This _is_ a powerful tool indeed. I like it. Thanks, again, for explaining this. Regards, J=C3=BCrgen.