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From: Nikolay Kudryavtsev <nikolay.kudryavtsev@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: ispell.el and multilanguage lines.
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 04:18:20 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56DCD6DC.60503@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83y4cv12tr.fsf@gnu.org>

Sorry, for the very late reply,  was somewhat busy, plus this stuff 
required somewhat extensive extra checking.
> Emacs doesn't yet have a concept of the language of the text,
> certainly not when several languages are mixed in a buffer.
Ispell.el has CASECHARS and NOT-CASECHARS regular expressions in 
ispell-dictionary-alist. This should be enough for the purpose of 
differentiating Russian from English, if only it worked. But in 
practice, those regexps are not used correctly, since now 
ispell-get-line sends the whole line when re-search-forward finds 
CASECHARS within it. While I'd agree that the number of use cases, where 
CASECHARS and NOT-CASECHARS are useful is rather limited, fixing them 
seems easier than removing.

> Yes, and the latest code base (of what will become Emacs 25.1)
> supports this feature of Hunspell.
I've tried that version, sure it fixes this bug 
<https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=20495>, but I actually 
never had a problem with it in the first place, since you can avoid it 
in 24.5 by setting ispell-dictionary-alist manually after 
ispell-set-spellchecker-params had ran.

> I believe that "mess" is fixed in the current code.  So I suggest you
> try the latest emacs-25 branch.
There's a really confusing bug with the way hunspell behaves with 
Russian codepages on windows, that is not really emacs related. FYI:
I'm using current hunspell from ezwinports. Let's start hunspell in 
windows cmd:
chcp 1251
hunspell -a "" -d ru_RU -i cp1251
тестовоеслово
testword
Both of the above would result in spellchecking failures. Let's add them 
to the personal dictionary:
*тестовоеслово
*testword
#
Now, if you try exiting and starting hunspell again, both words would be 
considered correct, since they are in your personal dictionary.

Here's where the bug comes into play. If you start some kind of bash, be 
it cygwin bash, or msys and try using hunspell there:
hunspell -a "" -d ru_RU -i utf-8
testword would check ok, but тестовоеслово would fail. The same would 
happen within emacs. My best guess is that this happens because of some 
locale-connected environmental variable, that bash(and emacs) sets.

So, in the end, I'm stuck with aspell and running one spellcheck per 
dictionary.

-- 
Best Regards,
Nikolay Kudryavtsev



  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-07  1:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-15 23:14 ispell.el and multilanguage lines Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2015-12-16  3:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-07  1:18   ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev [this message]
2016-03-07 16:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-07 21:10       ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2016-03-07 21:17         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-07 22:03           ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev

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