From: "Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Real-life examples of lexical binding in Emacs Lisp
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 08:23:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5581125F.9080805@easy-emacs.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vbendwq5.fsf@debian.uxu>
Am 17.06.2015 um 02:06 schrieb Emanuel Berg:
> Jim Diamond <Jim.Diamond@deletethis.AcadiaU.ca>
> writes:
>
>> Really? Are there well-agreed-upon studies showing
>> those things? Or are they your opinion?
>>
>> It strikes me that lexical scoping is easier to
>> implement for compiled languages (that is an "off
>> the cuff" comment from someone (me) with basic
>> knowledge of compiler construction). But if lexical
>> scoping is "more natural", is that because more
>> people were "brought up" with lexically-scoped
>> languages than dynamically-scoped languages?
> This discussion is much easier to have if that
> confusing terminology is dropped for a second and we
> instead study the simple example of a `let' form:
>
> (let ((scratch-buffer "*scratch*"))
> (when (bufferp scratch-buffer)
> (kill-buffer scratch-buffer) ))
>
> Here we have one piece of data which is used twice, so
> that data is named and when it is used it is
> indirectly refered to.
>
> In this example, what is natural to me? Answer:
> I don't expect `let' to affect any other code than the
> code in the `let' itself! And this is "lexical
> scoping".
Nonetheless, that's the way Emacs acted all the time, while called
"dynamically" scoped.
Now with "lexical" we have instead an injection, if a function with same
arguments' symbol is called inside let.
Seems neither "lexical" nor "dynamic" express the real thing.
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2015-05-29 8:28 Real-life examples of lexical binding in Emacs Lisp Marcin Borkowski
2015-05-30 8:28 ` Tassilo Horn
2015-06-14 10:52 ` Marcin Borkowski
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2015-06-14 11:31 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-16 23:48 ` Jim Diamond
2015-06-17 0:06 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-17 6:23 ` Andreas Röhler [this message]
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2015-06-17 10:49 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-17 10:53 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-17 14:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-17 16:19 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-06-17 19:30 ` Tassilo Horn
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2015-06-17 17:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-17 20:22 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-17 22:13 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-17 23:46 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-18 14:57 ` Udyant Wig
2015-06-18 15:47 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-19 13:49 ` Udyant Wig
2015-06-19 17:41 ` acronymania (was: Re: Real-life examples of lexical binding in Emacs Lisp) Emanuel Berg
2015-06-19 17:53 ` Rusi
2015-06-17 20:33 ` Real-life examples of lexical binding in Emacs Lisp Emanuel Berg
2015-06-17 22:07 ` Robert Thorpe
2015-06-17 22:17 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-17 0:43 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-17 16:02 ` Phillip Lord
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2015-06-23 23:49 ` Jim Diamond
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2015-05-30 12:59 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-14 10:55 ` Marcin Borkowski
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2015-06-14 20:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-14 21:44 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-14 21:49 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
[not found] <mailman.3883.1432888152.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-05-29 9:30 ` Joost Kremers
2015-05-29 11:12 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-05-29 12:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-29 16:21 ` Phillip Lord
2015-05-29 16:50 ` Yuri Khan
2015-05-29 12:28 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-05-29 17:16 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-05-29 18:43 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-05-30 5:49 ` Rusi
2015-05-30 12:50 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-05-30 15:23 ` Rusi
2015-05-30 15:50 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-05-30 16:21 ` Rusi
2015-05-30 16:03 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-05-30 16:32 ` Rusi
2015-05-30 16:54 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-05-30 17:10 ` Rusi
2015-05-30 19:12 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
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