From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alexandre Garreau Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: no to war in Ukraine Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2022 09:53:56 +0100 Message-ID: <5568043.OSE0SheIR2@galex-713.eu> References: <87ee3p4xn4.fsf@zoho.eu> <6365757.nJ7RtekbVj@galex-713.eu> <87fso47mzt.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23195"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Po Lu Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 27 10:25:39 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nOFoB-0005tc-J6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2022 10:25:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56720 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nOFo9-0006KD-PK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2022 04:25:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60014) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nOFnL-0006Iz-9H for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2022 04:24:48 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a00:5884:8305::1] (port=40828 helo=galex-713.eu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nOFnI-0006sK-TH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2022 04:24:46 -0500 Original-Received: from gal by galex-713.eu with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nOFJV-00C9SH-8j; Sun, 27 Feb 2022 09:53:57 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87fso47mzt.fsf@yahoo.com> X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a00:5884:8305::1 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:5884:8305::1; envelope-from=galex-713@galex-713.eu; helo=galex-713.eu X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:136247 Archived-At: Le diman=C4=89o, 27-a de februaro 2022, 9-a horo kaj 5:42 CET Po Lu a =C3= =A9crit : > Alexandre Garreau writes: > > So I propose to abandon the topic, unless some webmasters or > > maintainers have desire to follow the consensual and comforting trend > > of putting their flag anywhere in sign of support. That=E2=80=99d be i= n line > > with our ideas of freedom. >=20 > The GNU project doesn't have any political opinions aside from that of > the free software movement. I hope that includes not taking sides on > the conflict in the Ukraine, or otherwise I will not be able to continue > working on Emacs. Why require so hardly such neutrality? I mean other projects did so by the = past (like=20 supporting uyghurs or dunno, other geopolitical stuff) and that doesn=E2=80= =99t stop from software=20 freedom or contribution=E2=80=A6 to me that=E2=80=99s alike people stating = anything personal (like =C2=ABi like=20 pasta=C2=BB, or dunno) or humor or what in projects: at least it makes it (= nonpermanently) more=20 personal and identifiable, maybe it even can increases contribution. > Also, why is this on help-gnu-emacs, instead of emacs-tangents or some > other more appropriate mailing list? very good question, although unfortunately your statement, being more polic= y targetted, is=20 likely more appropriated here :'D