From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Segundo Bob Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs starts with current screen contents in its display buffer Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 18:00:54 -0700 Message-ID: <53BF3746.2040705@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1405040513 3090 80.91.229.3 (11 Jul 2014 01:01:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 01:01:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: pjb@informatimago.com, embe8573@student.uu.se, rustompmody@gmail.com, jessejazza3.uk@gmail.com, jdavidboyd@adboyd.com To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 11 03:01:41 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1X5PDZ-0008Lt-GX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 03:01:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41504 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X5PDY-0000Vf-H4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 21:01:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51260) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X5PD0-0000GJ-7c for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 21:01:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X5PCu-0001kU-BJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 21:01:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pd0-x22c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22c]:35780) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X5PCu-0001jX-3i for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 21:01:00 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pd0-f172.google.com with SMTP id w10so445852pde.3 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 18:00:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qJ4OF18x2L2gdOHoYzZpZAl39uw+ZYmMQOXLWBsSxeo=; b=pkAlov7wBl1fKNG0MLvWJumbJ6r2yvRUP6zqb6G5TFj4TalhZkQnUC2+D6uWhtfyeF XjTCsGn9l3aFF033hDBSw58jVnI5EsjvF9OlWi0AcCFPAmTyHZ48zTINNp6ZeE3Knioe q+J5FIQJK4xLmgtWcLFenxUzdwyZv17KuQPV3dOcHD9c7o4Q90KlcKxvOhCtHQ7aPjl1 2QgaLp2ECoyWSqeFKQKvVr4HUPNodLxcM10C392Ljx3fVk7cJ74HxUaAHlFPdyMw2qzg EZ34Dk7stkoep3XfAlw8g5RPsFiYhmPdxkavuzB6XS46YZJKy4RSoixRJAJtVJpySamh mKZg== X-Received: by 10.66.119.136 with SMTP id ku8mr10807680pab.121.1405040458172; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 18:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.103] (user-0c9h1f4.cable.mindspring.com. [24.152.133.228]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z3sm2814494pas.15.2014.07.10.18.00.55 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 10 Jul 2014 18:00:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: Segundo Bob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 Original-References: 87mwciklpv.fsf@debian.uxu X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22c X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:98642 Archived-At: Thanks to James Freer, Rusi, Pascal J. Bourguignon, Emanuel Berg, and David Boyd for you help. I apologize for not responding promptly to the first few suggestions. This is my first use of help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org. Since all I knew about it what how to send it an email, I expected to receive emails in response, but they never came. By chance I happened on the message archive and saw your responses. For me the "reply via email" button starts an email to the person, but not to help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org. I change the email to be to help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org and to CC the person. Is this what I'm supposed to do? Seems very inconvenient and loses the thread connection to previous emails. Is this how help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org works? Am I doing something wrong? --- Emanuel Berg wrote: Try not using any packages. Or try reinstalling Emacs. What happens with 'emacs -Q'? --- I went with removing all emacs files. This was tricky due to dependencies causing "broken packages" when the mark for removal was done in the wrong order. But eventually I succeeded. I reinstalled just package "emacs." My system is Xubuntu32 14.04 so "emacs" is: This is GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.10.7) of 2014-03-07 on toyol, modified by Debian On my system this emacs has the "Emacs starts with current screen contents in its display buffer" problem with no extra packages installed and all warnings eliminated. So I removed all emacs files, and then installed "emacs23". On my system this is: GNU Emacs 23.4.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.21) of 2013-10-25 on akateko, modified by Debian This works fine. It works fine with no extra packages and with all the extra packages that I want to use. So it is my "solution" to my problem. I will leave the mystery of "Emacs starts with current screen contents in its display buffer" to others. Sorry, I never tried "emacs -Q" on a failing emacs. I have tried it on my now working emacs and noted that -Q behaves differently than -q --but I haven't found any documentation for -Q, so I don't know what it does. --- J. David Boyd wrote: Then start a shell in emacs, and see what your terminal type is set to... --- Sorry, I didn't do your experiment on a non-working emacs. On a working emacs I also get "dumb". -- Segundo Bob SegundoBob@gmail.com