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* Re: faster emacs startup, can I postpone package loading?
@ 2006-01-04  0:10 BRUCE INGALLS
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From: BRUCE INGALLS @ 2006-01-04  0:10 UTC (permalink / raw)



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> From: "mitchell_laks"
> To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Date: 2 Jan 2006 18:38:25 -0800
> Subject: Re: faster emacs startup, can I postpone package loading?
> > >
> > > First, you'd have track down, where all the loading is happening.
> > Perhaps this happens in a file like /usr/share/emacs/site-start/site-
> init.el
>
> Thank you! Bingo!
>
> The directories /usr/share/emacs and /usr/share/emacs21 are interesting
>
> There is a file debian-startup.el and the directories correspond to the
> things that emacs loaded during startup.

...

> There,  in the ../emacs21/.. directory
> the file is a compiled file .elc.
>
> But I can't read debian-startup.elc but I can read the
> debian-startup.el  in ../emacs/ .. :).
>
> ...


> Next, you can try Jari Aalto's tiny-load:
> http://tiny-tools.sourceforge.net/
> > It loads packages during idle time. I use it in
> > http://emacro.sourceforge.net/
>
> Q: Am I going to have to rewrite this thing
> ?? :((( ?? using tiny-tools?  Over my head...
>
> Has anyone else smarter than me already done this?
>
> Dear Bruce your sourceforge site which I am looking at now is amazing.
> I had no idea what a high level of emacs wizardry exists out in the
> wild!


Unfortunately, I do not have a  Debian system to test this on,  unless
Knoppix fits.
I appreciate the complement on EMacro. I believe that it is the oldest
package
dedicated to ease of Emacs use.
I am glad to see competition, i.e. more easy Emacs packages!
I've been devoting my recent time to polishing EMacro for serious
distribution.

You can see how I use tiny-load (grep is your friend) at the end of
e-config.el, as
well as in e-functions.el.
If the online help does not work for you, and there are no Linux User Groups
in your
area, nor a Linux Guru at work, then perhaps it is time to start a Hacking
Elisp
entry at http://www.emacswiki.org/

If all this still gives your neuron meltdown a senior moment, I have heard
of an open
source bounty site. Perhaps donating a recently completed tech textbook, or
a
SourceForge or Gnu contribution might motivate an alpha geek, here, on
Debian or
elsewhere...

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* faster emacs startup, can I postpone package loading?
@ 2006-01-03 11:05 David Reitter
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From: David Reitter @ 2006-01-03 11:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> Is there some simple way that I can make all this (exciting) loading
> take place in the few seconds after I get my prompt and am working on
> my files?

Two techniques will serve that purpose.
Take a look at `autoload' (use the built-in documentation or Google),  
which loads packages when they are needed.

Also, you can load your stuff and dump a saved state. This is  
described in the Emacs (Lisp) Reference Manual, e.g. under "Building  
Emacs".
This will, however, only work for some packages and is probably going  
to be much more tricky for you.



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* faster emacs startup, can I postpone package loading?
@ 2006-01-02 20:27 mitchell_laks
  2006-01-02 21:40 ` Thorsten Bonow
  2006-01-06 13:56 ` kgold
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From: mitchell_laks @ 2006-01-02 20:27 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hi,

I run debian and use emacs as my editor. On  some systems I have many
packages that customize emacs for their own purposes. These packages
include such things as eieio, macsyma cedet-common tex etc.

On some of these systems the load process significantly slows down the
boot process. While emacs on some systems is immediately there, here it
can take 4 seconds (gasp).
On other systems I have with less 'crud' (extraordinary software that I
do use occassionally), it comes up faster than a rabbit. As fast as
(shudder) vi. (I wrote my thesis using vi, a long ways ago, and don't
want to go that way again).

(I originally was going to write that it takes 10 seconds to boot, but
I solved that problem when I realized that emacs was doing a reverse
dns lookup  and it went down to 4 seconds as soon as I added the
workstation ip address itself to the /etc/hosts file).

When I look in the *Messages* buffer I see the following load list (see
below).

Now all this is by virtue of Debian packaging adding loads. I did not
really modify the .emacs file too much.

Is there some simple way that I can make all this (exciting) loading
take place in the few seconds after I get my prompt and am working on
my files?

Note that I am a lisp newbie, I can barely car, cdr and setq, though I
own SICP, Lispcraft, On Lisp, Common Lisp and even once printed out the
gnu emacs-lisp manual.... :)

Thanks!

Mitchell Laks

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