* Understanding slime and swank @ 2010-03-02 13:40 Andrea Crotti 2010-03-02 14:14 ` Eric Abrahamsen 2010-03-02 23:27 ` Sean Sieger 0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Andrea Crotti @ 2010-03-02 13:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs I would like to start using clojure and I've also found it can be used with slime also. Though I don't understand how to pass from for example sbcl to clojure slime. If I load the library *swank-clojure* then no way, I'm not able to go back to sbcl slime... Now my configuration is simply like this --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (add-to-list 'Info-default-directory-list "~/.emacs.d/slime/doc/") ;; the path should be already set up correctly (setq inferior-lisp-program "sbcl") (require 'slime) (slime-setup) (setq slime-complete-symbol*-fancy t) (setq slime-complete-symbol-function 'slime-fuzzy-complete-symbol) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- But I remember in the past I did have a smarter auto completion... And by the way I'm not able to see the slime documentation, even if this file slime.texi is in the path Info-default-directory-alist... Thanks, Andrea ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Understanding slime and swank 2010-03-02 13:40 Understanding slime and swank Andrea Crotti @ 2010-03-02 14:14 ` Eric Abrahamsen 2010-03-03 10:31 ` Andrea Crotti [not found] ` <mailman.2215.1267612335.14305.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 2010-03-02 23:27 ` Sean Sieger 1 sibling, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2010-03-02 14:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs On Mar 2, 2010, at 9:40 PM, Andrea Crotti wrote: > I would like to start using clojure and I've also found it can be used > with slime also. Though I don't understand how to pass from for > example > sbcl to clojure slime. If I load the library *swank-clojure* then no > way, I'm not able to go back to sbcl slime... > > Now my configuration is simply like this > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > (add-to-list 'Info-default-directory-list "~/.emacs.d/slime/doc/") > > ;; the path should be already set up correctly > (setq inferior-lisp-program "sbcl") > (require 'slime) > (slime-setup) > (setq slime-complete-symbol*-fancy t) > (setq slime-complete-symbol-function 'slime-fuzzy-complete-symbol) > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > > But I remember in the past I did have a smarter auto completion... Are you looking for slime-lisp-implementations? The example from the docs looks like this: (setq slime-lisp-implementations '((cmucl ("cmucl" "-quiet")) (sbcl ("/opt/sbcl/bin/sbcl") :coding-system utf-8-unix))) The one at top will be default, I think you run slime with a prefix arg to autocomplete choose from different implementations. Eric > > And by the way I'm not able to see the slime documentation, even if > this > file > slime.texi > > is in the path Info-default-directory-alist... > > Thanks, > Andrea > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Understanding slime and swank 2010-03-02 14:14 ` Eric Abrahamsen @ 2010-03-03 10:31 ` Andrea Crotti 2010-03-03 16:27 ` Sean Sieger [not found] ` <mailman.2215.1267612335.14305.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Andrea Crotti @ 2010-03-03 10:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs Eric Abrahamsen <girzel@gmail.com> writes: > On Mar 2, 2010, at 9:40 PM, Andrea Crotti wrote: > Are you looking for slime-lisp-implementations? The example from the > docs looks like this: > > (setq slime-lisp-implementations > '((cmucl ("cmucl" "-quiet")) > (sbcl ("/opt/sbcl/bin/sbcl") :coding-system utf-8-unix))) > > The one at top will be default, I think you run slime with a prefix > arg to autocomplete choose from different implementations. > mm no I didn't mean that... I would like to use this: http://github.com/jochu/swank-clojure And also switch to other lisp implementations. It's not very clear how I should do, they also say to add this --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (add-to-list 'slime-lisp-implementations '(sbcl ("sbcl"))) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- But now again is only sbcl working, also prefixing M-x slime. Before only loading "swank-clojure" was enough to make it working... I just would like to understand more or less how swank-slime work and which variables I should set up.. Now the conf is --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (add-to-list 'Info-default-directory-list "~/.emacs.d/slime/doc/") ;; the path should be already set up correctly (setq inferior-lisp-program "sbcl") (require 'slime) (require 'slime-fuzzy) (slime-setup) (setq slime-complete-symbol*-fancy t) (setq slime-complete-symbol-function 'slime-fuzzy-complete-symbol) (require 'swank-clojure) (add-to-list 'slime-lisp-implementations '(sbcl ("sbcl"))) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- And I also have the slime.info now but still I can't see the documentation.. Anyway using auto-complete with slime maybe? Also another problem is that not requiring 'slime-fuzzy didn't find me the completing function, isn't there any autoloading then? Thanks ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Understanding slime and swank 2010-03-03 10:31 ` Andrea Crotti @ 2010-03-03 16:27 ` Sean Sieger 2010-03-03 17:13 ` Peter Dyballa 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Sean Sieger @ 2010-03-03 16:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs Andrea Crotti <andrea.crotti.0@gmail.com> writes: And I also have the slime.info now but still I can't see the documentation.. I've never liked that stuff in my dotemacs; I locate the directory where the Emacs install has placed its info files and edited the dir file of that directory. Bing. Clean, forget all about it. Build new info, overwrite it to that directory again. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Understanding slime and swank 2010-03-03 16:27 ` Sean Sieger @ 2010-03-03 17:13 ` Peter Dyballa 2010-03-05 21:36 ` Sean Sieger 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Peter Dyballa @ 2010-03-03 17:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sean Sieger; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs Am 03.03.2010 um 17:27 schrieb Sean Sieger: > I locate the directory where > the Emacs install has placed its info files and edited the dir file of > that directory. Bing. Clean, forget all about it. That's not clean, you get dir~. The clean way is to use install-info. -- Greetings Pete Rain is saved up in cloud banks. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Understanding slime and swank 2010-03-03 17:13 ` Peter Dyballa @ 2010-03-05 21:36 ` Sean Sieger 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Sean Sieger @ 2010-03-05 21:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE> writes: That's not clean, you get dir~. The clean way is to use install-info. Thank you, Pete. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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* Re: Understanding slime and swank [not found] ` <mailman.2215.1267612335.14305.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> @ 2010-03-07 6:24 ` Tim X 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Tim X @ 2010-03-07 6:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs Andrea Crotti <andrea.crotti.0@gmail.com> writes: > Eric Abrahamsen <girzel@gmail.com> writes: > >> On Mar 2, 2010, at 9:40 PM, Andrea Crotti wrote: >> Are you looking for slime-lisp-implementations? The example from the >> docs looks like this: >> >> (setq slime-lisp-implementations >> '((cmucl ("cmucl" "-quiet")) >> (sbcl ("/opt/sbcl/bin/sbcl") :coding-system utf-8-unix))) >> >> The one at top will be default, I think you run slime with a prefix >> arg to autocomplete choose from different implementations. >> > > mm no I didn't mean that... > I would like to use this: > http://github.com/jochu/swank-clojure > > And also switch to other lisp implementations. > It's not very clear how I should do, they also say to add this > (add-to-list 'slime-lisp-implementations '(sbcl ("sbcl"))) > > But now again is only sbcl working, also prefixing M-x slime. > > Before only loading "swank-clojure" was enough to make it working... > > I just would like to understand more or less how swank-slime work and > which variables I should set up.. > Now the conf is > (add-to-list 'Info-default-directory-list "~/.emacs.d/slime/doc/") > > ;; the path should be already set up correctly > (setq inferior-lisp-program "sbcl") > (require 'slime) > (require 'slime-fuzzy) > (slime-setup) > (setq slime-complete-symbol*-fancy t) > (setq slime-complete-symbol-function 'slime-fuzzy-complete-symbol) > > (require 'swank-clojure) > > (add-to-list 'slime-lisp-implementations '(sbcl ("sbcl"))) > > > And I also have the slime.info now but still I can't see the > documentation.. > > Anyway using auto-complete with slime maybe? > Also another problem is that not requiring 'slime-fuzzy didn't find me > the completing function, isn't there any autoloading then? > Thanks > > > First of all, I think its very important to be working with the latest versions of slime. It appears that the slime developers are rather slow when it comes to releasing new stable versions and the current development head has moved on a long way since the last 'stable' release. Secondly, subscribe to the slime dev list. This is the best place to get assistance and advice. Now for my, probably wrong, understanding of how it all works. Essentially, there is an emacs part i.e. slime and a remote 'server' component, swank. The two ends communicate over a socket layer using an agreed protocol. There are two ways of getting things started. The first and most common approach is to start it all from the emacs side. When you do M-x slime, emacs starts an inferior process to run the 'server' implementation i.e. sbcl, cmucl, clojure etc. As part of that process, it tells the server implementation to run the swank package/code, which sets up all the necessary listeners and other bits to allow the slime<->swank communication. This is the bit where I"m not clear on how to get slime to work with both CL and clojure as the way they will be started and the code that needs to be loaded will be different. For all CL implementations, its just load and run swank.lisp. However, once you add in a java based lang or even scheme, thenn somehow slime will ned to be told what the commands are that it needs to send to the inferior lisp/java process to load the necessary packatge/class and start the top level loop. There is an alternative approach, which may be easier. Slime has the ability to connect and start working with an already running system. This is useful, for example, when you have a CL server app and you want to connect to it without stopping and re-starting it. The basic idea is that you start the swank process when you start your app and have it just listening on the socket. At some later point, you can then start slime and say connect to the swank process running on server x listening on socket y. Maybe this wold be something that could work for you. Just start your clojur or lisp processes independently of emacs and slime. Ensure they load their swank implementation and that all necessary config stuff is set, such as the port and any network/access controls. You should then be able to conect to whatever implementation you want using the slime-connect command. Tim -- tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Understanding slime and swank 2010-03-02 13:40 Understanding slime and swank Andrea Crotti 2010-03-02 14:14 ` Eric Abrahamsen @ 2010-03-02 23:27 ` Sean Sieger 1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Sean Sieger @ 2010-03-02 23:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs Andrea Crotti <andrea.crotti.0@gmail.com> writes: And by the way I'm not able to see the slime documentation, even if this file slime.texi Right? Have you run `makeinfo slime.texi' in the directory in which it resides, to produce slime.info? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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