From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ken Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: OT w/ misunderstanding Re: creating a sub-menu Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 04:36:09 -0500 Message-ID: <51385F89.10406@mousecar.com> References: Reply-To: gebser@mousecar.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1362648988 16769 80.91.229.3 (7 Mar 2013 09:36:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 09:36:28 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 07 10:36:52 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UDXFs-0000Ut-Fe for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:36:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40675 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UDXFW-00037u-Om for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 04:36:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37052) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UDXFL-00037m-Te for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 04:36:21 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UDXFG-0004NQ-Vo for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 04:36:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.195]:63410) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UDXFG-0004N4-Oj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 04:36:14 -0500 Original-Received: from dellap.mousecar.net (dsl093-011-016.cle1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.11.16]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MYhC6-1UIQp70p6o-00VsQ0; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 04:36:12 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130219 Thunderbird/17.0.3 In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:jS30FqvjryV7ZnIiO7CJz6uVKkyzInL9vjNy6SgNlEt gdei3NxlogIqRA948pI9Xf+VWUpduoXHGFoOADUVv12wOg4rd2 eckSI3zBFZq5lpQ18YDSTF2oPY6AdAP0VUZaY37OZsT+Djthfr MeeuEKLHUOhG9iVP8QygWeB2U1KnwQ/BZ/tnVEMEIbiZMVXdiB /EDq8cMeewXtwSh371uMemqrXBvopekQYH0wIcwlI3uAZhOTY3 mE6/syBXupF8owpyQUa00DjjN0neOAFG9Wh80uDZhL8m3mgKjW 3PDTIv2SlM9VACOBO0+D50Tc3YPImUUVE7L/1Ym11coDbpSQCt 58xV/LfcJnWW4vZCRSeU= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 74.208.4.195 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:89403 Archived-At: Joost, For some reason your replies (from the outset of this conversation) aren't showing up as part of one and the same thread. On 03/06/2013 03:55 PM Joost Kremers wrote: > ken wrote: >> Thanks for your response, Joost. But I already have an easier way than >> that to change the input method, one which takes just two mouse >> clicks... and then another two mouse clicks to return to my normal input >> method. > > That's too much. It's also the wrong input medium. ;-) Toggling the > input method can be done with `C-\', which IMHO is much much easier and > quicker than using the mouse. Thanks, Joost. I have used that in the past. It's okay if I'm using just two input methods, switching back and forth between them. What if, though, I'm using three or four input methods? And if I need to enter the '༣' character or the '§' or '¾' or 'ज्ञ' characters, how do I know which input method I need to invoke? So it would be much easier to list such characters in a menu which shows their corresponding key invocations so I can use them also. More importantly, the way that "I already have" is built into my Linux system. I don't have to do anything for it to be there, because it's already there. It's not something I need to do any kind of development on. This already-existing functionality, called SCIM, also allows me to change to any one of 40 or 70 other input methods... and probably more in future as development on it continues. And scim works for *all* apps on the entire system-- any and all web browsers, email apps, terminal windows, other editors I might use, including audio and video editors, etc., etc.--, not simply emacs. So whether the emacs way is better or easier than scim is a moot point. SCIM is already installed and working and quite useful. >> But I want a way so that all I need do is "C-xaa" to get 'ä'-- >> so I can type this and other characters without breaking the flow of my >> typing. This IMO is even easier than using SCIM and is what I'm trying to figure out how to code. Often I need to type just a single character. In such cases, switching input methods (regardless how it's done) is too much. > > Don't know if that helps, though... > Thanks for responding, but no, none of that was at all helpful. I still want to create the sub-menu I originally described (the partial code for which no longer exists in this thread) and so still would like assistance formulating that code. It would appear though that no one here knows how that would be done... or perhaps they're currently busy doing other things. Getting *some* kind of reply is often better than dead silence, so conceivably yours were better than all the others I got.