From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Jean-Christophe Helary Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Japanese font settings ? Date: Sat, 23 May 2020 23:36:00 +0900 Message-ID: <50EC3171-1040-41B2-9DA5-14A5E0B4ACA3@traduction-libre.org> References: <838shk452n.fsf@gnu.org> <329462B1-3B7B-4F9E-BEB9-0B31102FFE53@traduction-libre.org> <83k1142kqb.fsf@gnu.org> <1E18AB84-F826-4BE3-B721-6792274BCBF5@traduction-libre.org> <83y2pizw2a.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="116168"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 23 16:36:41 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jcVGT-000U8L-1l for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 23 May 2020 16:36:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53046 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jcVGS-0006zC-4l for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 23 May 2020 10:36:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33662) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jcVG2-0006z1-0R for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 May 2020 10:36:14 -0400 Original-Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.199]:51395) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jcVG0-00016h-ER; Sat, 23 May 2020 10:36:13 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 128.53.210.217 Original-Received: from [10.0.1.13] (pl6361.ag0304.nttpc.ne.jp [128.53.210.217]) (Authenticated sender: jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org) by relay9-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 03521FF803; Sat, 23 May 2020 14:36:06 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83y2pizw2a.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.199; envelope-from=jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org; helo=relay9-d.mail.gandi.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/23 10:36:08 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:123122 Archived-At: > On May 23, 2020, at 21:15, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >=20 >> From: Jean-Christophe Helary = >> Date: Sat, 23 May 2020 16:38:00 +0900 >> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org >>=20 >> All in all, after too many hours wasted on this issue, I'm left with = a solution that's exactly equivalent to finding a code snippet found on = the web and I've not come any closer to a better understanding of how = all that works. >>=20 >> What the emacs manual should have is: >>=20 >> 1) a link to the elisp manual for set-fontset-font >> 2) the reference to list-character-sets and to = script-representative-chars >> 3) an example that applies set-fontset-font to a list of scripts >> 3) a way to *find* a range of character: do we use = list-character-sets, click on a given character set and from there ? Is = there a better way ? >=20 > Thanks, I used this and other information you posted to improve that > part of the manual. Eli, Thank you *very much* for this update. And I apologize for having been = upset. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D (For convenience, the =E2=80=98han=E2=80=99 script in Emacs is set up to = support all of the Chinese, Japanese, and Korean, a.k.a. CJK, = characters, not just Chinese characters.) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Does that mean that as far as emacs is concerned han also covers = hiragana, katakana, bopomofo and various CJK symbols ? If that's the = case, why did my first attempt when I specified 'han produced = non-satisfactory results (the font applied to the Chinese characters by = not to the kanas) but when I specified a given Japanese character set = with the same font I got the expected result ? Jean-Christophe Helary ----------------------------------------------- http://mac4translators.blogspot.com @brandelune