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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Jean-Christophe Helary <jean.christophe.helary@gmail.com>,
	Help Gnu Emacs mailing list <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: killing the result of isearch
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2017 07:26:32 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4c3d56b0-5151-4244-8b1b-fb4376b4fa88@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8B436DA2-1C8B-471F-8D90-08C282864A70@gmail.com>

> > So doesn't searching-and-replace with an empty replacement work?
> 
> It works to accomplish the same result but it takes many more step as I
> wrote earlier:
> 
> isearch string
> isearch-query-replace
> (replace with nothing)
...
> The problem with emacs and searches, is that you only search, you don't
> *find*, as in the action of searching does not result in an object that you
> can act upon. Which defeats the purpose of searching.

It does result in an object you can act upon, if you want
that.  Isearch+ gives you that possibility, including the
possibility of setting the region on that object.

> A simple "search" does nothing but put the point at the end of the match.
> it is nice to navigate the document but it does nothing about the match.
> isearch is even more treacherous since it makes it look like you are
> finding something, when actually you have also just moved the point in the
> buffer and nothing more.
> 
> A simple "search" should at least be able to create a region on the match,
> it doesn't even do that.

Have you actually tried Isearch+?  As I mentioned, I think
it offers what you're requesting.

As for those who propose query-replace as a substitute for
acting on search hits during Isearch:

* q-r is OK for replacing, but that's the only action it knows

* q-r is one-directional, and not embedded in Isearch: The
  search pattern and replacement patterns are fixed, once
  and for all.

The search-hit replacement (or other action) provided by
Isearch+ is on-demand, and you can change what it acts
on (search pattern, hence search hits) and the replacement
text at any time.

Q-r is nice, and it's good you can invoke it from Isearch,
but it is not the same thing as on-demand replacement
during search.



  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-07 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-07  2:41 killing the result of isearch Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-11-07  5:34 ` Drew Adams
2017-11-07  6:01   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-11-07  6:25     ` Søren Pilgård
     [not found]     ` <mailman.3103.1510035932.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-11-07  7:07       ` Loris Bennett
2017-11-07  7:49         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-11-07  8:43         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
     [not found]         ` <mailman.3106.1510044223.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-11-07 10:49           ` Loris Bennett
2017-11-07 12:45             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-11-07 15:26               ` Drew Adams [this message]
2017-11-07 15:51                 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-11-07 16:46                   ` Drew Adams
2017-11-07 22:38                     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-11-07 16:53                   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-11-07 17:24                     ` Drew Adams
2017-11-07 17:45                       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-11-08  8:21               ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2017-11-08 13:47                 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-11 15:36                   ` Charles A. Roelli
     [not found]             ` <mailman.3114.1510058721.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-11-07 15:08               ` Loris Bennett
2017-11-07 15:28                 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-11-07 16:24                   ` Drew Adams
2017-11-07 22:34                     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-11-07 22:54                       ` Drew Adams
2017-11-08 22:24                   ` Tomas Nordin
2017-11-08 22:44                     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-11-08 23:07                       ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-09 21:38                       ` Tomas Nordin
2017-11-10 13:11                         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-11-10 16:54                           ` Drew Adams
2017-11-07  8:31     ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-11-07 15:26     ` Drew Adams
2017-11-07 20:59     ` Bob Proulx
2017-11-07 22:10       ` Drew Adams
2017-11-07 22:53         ` Bob Proulx
2017-11-07 23:15       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-11-08  4:27         ` Bob Proulx
2017-11-08  5:29           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-11-08 18:50             ` Bob Proulx
2017-11-07 17:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-07 22:59   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-11-12 20:02     ` Tomas Nordin
2017-11-12 22:13       ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-13 21:17         ` Tomas Nordin
2017-11-13 22:13           ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-20  3:24           ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-15 14:48       ` Emanuel Berg

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