From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ken Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Umlauts on Mac in 24 pretest Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 15:43:35 -0400 Message-ID: <4FBD3DE7.6060409@mousecar.com> References: <1003AB64-797E-4CE6-8467-7668944DE0D9@univie.ac.at> Reply-To: gebser@mousecar.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1337802235 9893 80.91.229.3 (23 May 2012 19:43:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 19:43:55 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 23 21:43:54 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SXHTJ-0008RD-Up for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 May 2012 21:43:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36520 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SXHTJ-0005hr-Ha for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 May 2012 15:43:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56618) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SXHTE-0005hZ-8k for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 May 2012 15:43:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SXHTC-0006pC-Bb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 May 2012 15:43:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.195]:57234) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SXHTC-0006o4-53 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 May 2012 15:43:42 -0400 Original-Received: from dellap.mousecar.net (dsl093-011-016.cle1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.11.16]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M6BOM-1S9oXL31OU-00ySXW; Wed, 23 May 2012 15:43:39 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.4) Gecko/20120424 Thunderbird/10.0.4 In-Reply-To: <1003AB64-797E-4CE6-8467-7668944DE0D9@univie.ac.at> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:AtTM1etjo3OCWaQebt46wu0WHdynsMp4o3znSbQhsC0 iZ+2WQWLFawxv1TrzbOYfGcH5AuPJsVcwHta47WkVrgdRkU0tZ pPSn2ZBDbFGTFNPNcTPYjlXtwBxx9xZa7HWv4PSKmSCFq7N1Fy ymCysIvKDJKBcEWGiPDM6J/uqBCRAUnfOl2P9JAXNIZAT2R7DJ LKPbKJsvD8MLgc00AO0cnXtIWPMNf3wmPMzKscQC7TBqYbHOC7 6Kuyzt0XxyI7Vfwu0KkvmXm2J+pSnYcSCtkbOqyx5jyvlHPlyD 6MECldHYtKpiWMHz8rUYFLux+G4x+HJ4ibd/QhgUSM3SROaTiz GNqXtvI6a921qveTVIDQOkw/pVwdEBfK4B+5VrJQX X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 74.208.4.195 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:84951 Archived-At: On 05/23/2012 11:59 AM Neuwirth Erich wrote: > I am using Emacs pretest 24.0.97 on a Mac with Lion 10.7.4. > Some of my documents are in German, so I need to enter umlauts and sharp s. > I have not your found an easy solution without giving up to many other keyboard macros. > I still would like to use Cmd-X_C_V for Cut-Copy-Paste. > And I still would like to use Alt as the meta key. > > Is there a good solution complying with my wish list? For a few years I've been wanting to do the same. I've tried various ways and recently came upon SCIM. It's an application which comes with Linux (at least my CentOS distribution).... so it's free and open source software (FOSS). So you probably could find it for OS X. Or maybe it's already installed. It's just a tiny block in the lower-left corner of the screen and you can set it to any one of several dozen languages/alphabets... on the fly.... even in the middle of using an application. Yes, not only does it work for emacs, but for every application I run-- web pages (where you input text), email, IM windows, on the command line, in other editors... everything. The default coding on my system (set in the OS) is UTF-8. In SCIM I select latin-pre. This enables me to easily type characters like ä, ë, ö, ü, «, », and ß, as well as French characters like é and è and ç and Spanish characters such as ñ and ¿. And other characters such as ½, ¾, and ¼. And many more. It's all very easy. It's great. It's what I've been hoping for für eine sehr lange Zeit. No special configuration in emacs or in any other app is needed at all. You just start using it. If the characters in this email don't appear accurately in your email reader, select UTF-8 as your character encoding. hth, ken