From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ken Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: "like other editors" [ Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 17:30:10 -0400 Message-ID: <4E8A2962.1050801@mousecar.com> References: <87litcvtu2.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20111003093334.0bf5d988@kuru.homelinux.net> <4E89B613.9060305@mousecar.com> Reply-To: gebser@mousecar.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1317677425 8493 80.91.229.12 (3 Oct 2011 21:30:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 21:30:25 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 03 23:30:21 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RAq5c-0001JZ-Jm for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 23:30:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36246 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RAq5c-0000oP-0p for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 17:30:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:59107) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RAq5X-0000oK-IF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 17:30:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RAq5W-0000Tw-IC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 17:30:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.195]:51912) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RAq5W-0000Tq-Bz for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 17:30:14 -0400 Original-Received: from dellap.mousecar.net (dsl093-011-016.cle1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.11.16]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LcBSf-1QlvFu1wRx-00jFyA; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 17:30:12 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20110928) In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:m6O3UVZ/9zQBPiwCf+rEuYCtnIa/1FetY8RUYNz2B40 gtAh1O2jroiVVTBgs2ovqUCD6jnn8lD4J1ddaZSQS6ErdsaJs2 T+cBXGPlVZLG8eIea+BDsj/Mzcwfjrvv/dHjAOB/pD3dl/EbxN Z+rXpjfyliIzsXC6DbhLzCNID67CLNA12LQXPScLow6A4iIHov lVxs0q5Tcdrq1/xvlu6LQ73xQ7LGVUN4rPojmT+gFZwuSu7M1F nFvNzlUWXeqb5xsMeIghIagwZi9H824Y+w84motsSSHAYPZwGM bTqldkRGzpcjXgb/XPsCE5c/e3SZhvni2KopRZof0vBExgB5LD jZ+M3WlfnBSPuFHiU0W/WqxeusYdP3Q0RGmqhvekw X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 74.208.4.195 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:82430 Archived-At: Though it makes more sense to bottom-post and/or respond interlinearly, most people using email top-post. So we should all start doing what most people do. :P So... No, not if it's the sole criterion for changing how emacs (or any software) works. On 10/03/2011 12:00 PM Richard Riley wrote: > ken writes: > >>> .... > >> Finally, as said at the top, the argument to follow "other modern editors" is >> nothing more than an appeal to fashion. And fashion is very >> subjective and > > No it isnt. Its to follow and conform to other apps many people use and > have developed over many years too and conform to modern desktop standards. > >> capricious. We should no more change emacs simply to comport with some other, >> even (currently) more popular software than you and I and all the other guys on >> this list should start dressing ourselves like the cool dudes on whatever soap >> opera is the most popular these days. >> >> Let's just talk about what makes sense. > > You dont think emacs sharing certain features with much more popular > editors might be a good idea and makes sense?