From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ken Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: "like other editors" [ Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 16:39:14 -0400 Message-ID: <4E8A1D72.4010106@mousecar.com> References: <87litcvtu2.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20111003093334.0bf5d988@kuru.homelinux.net> <4E89B613.9060305@mousecar.com> <20111003154119.37845657@kuru.homelinux.net> <4E89D1EE.1000105@mousecar.com> Reply-To: gebser@mousecar.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1317674383 20678 80.91.229.12 (3 Oct 2011 20:39:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 20:39:43 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 03 22:39:37 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RApIU-0008QH-Fg for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 22:39:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43876 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RApIO-0004Ei-RW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 16:39:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:54210) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RApIG-00049F-0x for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 16:39:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RApIE-00017H-VV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 16:39:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.194]:51645) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RApIE-00017A-Q3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 16:39:18 -0400 Original-Received: from dellap.mousecar.net (dsl093-011-016.cle1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.11.16]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M24nL-1Qqx3o3x3z-00td61; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 16:39:17 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20110928) In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:tSJjXOlTiotHejsFZ/iYAuuI+wWByN2N65U5XvdOVXW NY7HnQDS1Id7GgjjAgK/h4sKjFTzF2ch3OUMKsgGalqaw7MRP1 kJGzkRAVF29vrOjXFlxvIKhP+4jDKkDVdfeNeSFjzhW2Pt94wv uibJozOYzmIQVfdZwqXjufQF7q8mmHCVFuFEv++z06xI48xD0O JQq2JBvmhWhU9KWrkmcAqAL3mLVeSSY9cc31paCnzAG29tJztv bu/LZNJLHf09jOH9l7FPAEZyy9xaLAmpYxv/3JnHA59tbWCcQI AFYHWOQNOn9YxWMovI6DAKRKj596Z1LqhnvP+8w0g0snisMS5q buiNYntZs5PAaSGLaoenYgwO50TEIs0LXb/tJZF8T X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 74.208.4.194 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:82428 Archived-At: On 10/03/2011 12:02 PM Richard Riley wrote: > ken writes: > >> On 10/03/2011 09:41 AM Suvayu Ali wrote: >>> Hi Ken, >>> >>> On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 09:18:11 -0400 >>> ken wrote: >>> >>>> Secondly, there are places in the world where people haven't ever >>>> used Windows; instead, their first and only experience with computers >>>> is with Linux. What sense can it make to them that emacs' behavior >>>> is changed simply to mimic some other editor they've never seen or >>>> used? >>> You wrongly assumed by modern editors I was talking about Windows >>> editors[1], >> No, I wasn't assuming you were talking about Word. Since you didn't say which >> editor you were talking about, I just picked Word as a foil. If you re-read my >> post, you'll see on my first reference to Word I preceded it by "e.g.", implying >> the same thereafter. > > Dont you feel using Word (Windows only non programmers editor) was a > little far fetched considering the plethora of cross platform > programmers editors including and not limited to emacs and vi? Never > mind eclipse etc as well as all the FOSS Gnu/Linux stuff like gedit etc? You're missing the point entirely. Re-read my original post in this thread.