* Binding M-n in info mode.
@ 2011-09-02 9:14 Dani Moncayo
2011-09-02 9:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Dani Moncayo @ 2011-09-02 9:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Hi folks,
I want to bind M-p/M-n globally to
backward-paragraph/forward-paragraph, so that I wrote this in my
.emacs:
(define-key global-map "\M-p" 'backward-paragraph)
(define-key global-map "\M-n" 'forward-paragraph)
It worked right, but then I realized that info mode binds M-n to
clone-buffer. In this mode I also want to bind M-n to
forward-paragraph, so that I added this:
(define-key Info-mode-map "\M-n" 'forward-paragraph)
The problem is that this last remapping fails when starting my Emacs
because, at that time, the variable Info-mode-map doesn't not exits.
What is the right way of solving this?
TIA
--
Dani Moncayo
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2011-09-02 9:14 Binding M-n in info mode Dani Moncayo
@ 2011-09-02 9:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-02 9:31 ` Dani Moncayo
2011-09-02 10:14 ` Deniz Dogan
2011-09-02 11:14 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2011-09-02 9:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 11:14:11 +0200
> From: Dani Moncayo <dmoncayo@gmail.com>
>
> It worked right, but then I realized that info mode binds M-n to
> clone-buffer. In this mode I also want to bind M-n to
> forward-paragraph, so that I added this:
>
> (define-key Info-mode-map "\M-n" 'forward-paragraph)
>
> The problem is that this last remapping fails when starting my Emacs
> because, at that time, the variable Info-mode-map doesn't not exits.
>
> What is the right way of solving this?
Do `(require 'info)' before you remap.
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* Re: Binding M-n in info mode.
2011-09-02 9:14 Binding M-n in info mode Dani Moncayo
2011-09-02 9:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2011-09-02 10:14 ` Deniz Dogan
2011-09-02 11:14 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Deniz Dogan @ 2011-09-02 10:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dani Moncayo; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
On 2011-09-02 11:14, Dani Moncayo wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I want to bind M-p/M-n globally to
> backward-paragraph/forward-paragraph, so that I wrote this in my
> .emacs:
>
Cool idea! ;)
> (define-key global-map "\M-p" 'backward-paragraph)
> (define-key global-map "\M-n" 'forward-paragraph)
>
> It worked right, but then I realized that info mode binds M-n to
> clone-buffer. In this mode I also want to bind M-n to
> forward-paragraph, so that I added this:
>
> (define-key Info-mode-map "\M-n" 'forward-paragraph)
>
> The problem is that this last remapping fails when starting my Emacs
> because, at that time, the variable Info-mode-map doesn't not exits.
>
> What is the right way of solving this?
>
> TIA
>
You could either do it Eli's way or "my" way:
(eval-after-load "info"
'(define-key Info-mode-map (kbd "M-n") 'forward-paragraph))
I'm not sure which is "better".
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* Re: Binding M-n in info mode.
2011-09-02 9:14 Binding M-n in info mode Dani Moncayo
2011-09-02 9:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-02 10:14 ` Deniz Dogan
@ 2011-09-02 11:14 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-09-02 12:17 ` Dani Moncayo
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From: Thien-Thi Nguyen @ 2011-09-02 11:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dani Moncayo; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
() Dani Moncayo <dmoncayo@gmail.com>
() Fri, 2 Sep 2011 11:14:11 +0200
What is the right way of solving this?
no worries to go w/ the pre-load
(it's wee code), as Eli suggested above
but mayhaps one enjoys the parsimony
(not always phony), of experience-wrested love:
‘eval-after-load’ delays the remapping
(less memory-sapping), until you really need it;
‘add-hook’ denies the stoned noncing
(o profligate consing): emacs grows as you feed it.
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* Re: Binding M-n in info mode.
2011-09-02 11:14 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
@ 2011-09-02 12:17 ` Dani Moncayo
2011-09-02 16:07 ` Vijay Lakshminarayanan
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From: Dani Moncayo @ 2011-09-02 12:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thien-Thi Nguyen; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
> no worries to go w/ the pre-load
> (it's wee code), as Eli suggested above
> but mayhaps one enjoys the parsimony
> (not always phony), of experience-wrested love:
> ‘eval-after-load’ delays the remapping
> (less memory-sapping), until you really need it;
> ‘add-hook’ denies the stoned noncing
> (o profligate consing): emacs grows as you feed it.
What is that? Poetry?? ;))
Well, thanks to all of you for helping!
--
Dani Moncayo
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* Re: Binding M-n in info mode.
2011-09-02 12:17 ` Dani Moncayo
@ 2011-09-02 16:07 ` Vijay Lakshminarayanan
2011-09-02 16:17 ` Deniz Dogan
2011-09-02 19:59 ` Dani Moncayo
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From: Vijay Lakshminarayanan @ 2011-09-02 16:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dani Moncayo; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs, Thien-Thi Nguyen
Dani Moncayo <dmoncayo@gmail.com> writes:
>> no worries to go w/ the pre-load
>> (it's wee code), as Eli suggested above
>> but mayhaps one enjoys the parsimony
>> (not always phony), of experience-wrested love:
>> ‘eval-after-load’ delays the remapping
>> (less memory-sapping), until you really need it;
>> ‘add-hook’ denies the stoned noncing
>> (o profligate consing): emacs grows as you feed it.
>
> What is that? Poetry?? ;))
It is, and it's pretty good. Nice one, Thien.
> Well, thanks to all of you for helping!
What Thien means is you should, in your .emacs, use
;; COMPLETELY untested
(eval-after-load "info"
(progn
(define-key Info-mode-map (kbd "M-n") #'forward-paragraph)
(define-key Info-mode-map (kbd "M-n") #'backward-paragraph)))
because it (a) delays the remapping and (b) is less memory sapping.
Furthermore, you could, to prevent "profligate consing", choose to
define the custom keybindings as an Info-mode-hook.
--
Cheers
~vijay
Gnus should be more complicated.
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2011-09-02 16:07 ` Vijay Lakshminarayanan
@ 2011-09-02 16:17 ` Deniz Dogan
2011-09-02 20:02 ` Dani Moncayo
2011-09-02 19:59 ` Dani Moncayo
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From: Deniz Dogan @ 2011-09-02 16:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vijay Lakshminarayanan; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs, Thien-Thi Nguyen
On 2011-09-02 18:07, Vijay Lakshminarayanan wrote:
> (define-key Info-mode-map (kbd "M-n") #'forward-paragraph)
> (define-key Info-mode-map (kbd "M-n") #'backward-paragraph)))
>
To Dani (and others): Note that the # prefix is not necessary in Emacs
Lisp (it is ignored). It is used by some Lisp dialects, such as Common
Lisp to denote a function name.
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* Re: Binding M-n in info mode.
2011-09-02 16:17 ` Deniz Dogan
@ 2011-09-02 20:02 ` Dani Moncayo
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From: Dani Moncayo @ 2011-09-02 20:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Deniz Dogan; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs, Thien-Thi Nguyen
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 18:17, Deniz Dogan <deniz@dogan.se> wrote:
> On 2011-09-02 18:07, Vijay Lakshminarayanan wrote:
>>
>> (define-key Info-mode-map (kbd "M-n") #'forward-paragraph)
>> (define-key Info-mode-map (kbd "M-n") #'backward-paragraph)))
>>
>
> To Dani (and others): Note that the # prefix is not necessary in Emacs Lisp
> (it is ignored). It is used by some Lisp dialects, such as Common Lisp to
> denote a function name.
Understood. Thanks.
--
Dani Moncayo
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* Re: Binding M-n in info mode.
2011-09-02 16:07 ` Vijay Lakshminarayanan
2011-09-02 16:17 ` Deniz Dogan
@ 2011-09-02 19:59 ` Dani Moncayo
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From: Dani Moncayo @ 2011-09-02 19:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vijay Lakshminarayanan; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs, Thien-Thi Nguyen
>> What is that? Poetry?? ;))
>
> It is, and it's pretty good. Nice one, Thien.
I agree, of course.
>> Well, thanks to all of you for helping!
>
> What Thien means is you should, in your .emacs, use
>
> ;; COMPLETELY untested
> (eval-after-load "info"
> (progn
> (define-key Info-mode-map (kbd "M-n") #'forward-paragraph)
> (define-key Info-mode-map (kbd "M-n") #'backward-paragraph)))
>
> because it (a) delays the remapping and (b) is less memory sapping.
> Furthermore, you could, to prevent "profligate consing", choose to
> define the custom keybindings as an Info-mode-hook.
Thanks for the extra explanation.
--
Dani Moncayo
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