Tics problem in LaTeX mode

Tics problem in LaTeX mode

[Stefan Bienert]

Hi there,

I have a rather queer problem in LaTeX mode, using Emacs version 23.1.1.

In other versions of Emacs, if I wrote `"` in a LaTeX file, I got ````
before a word and `''` after. Now, I only get '"'.

Any idea? Probably something in my .emacs?

greetings,

Stefan

Re: Tics problem in LaTeX mode

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 05.04.2010 um 17:12 schrieb Stefan Bienert:

> Any idea?


AUCTeX switched off? For me AUCTeX never left " as ". There are also  
variables TeX-close-quote and TeX-open-quote.

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   Pete

The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is the day they  
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Re: Tics problem in LaTeX mode

[Stefan Bienert]

> AUCTeX switched off? For me AUCTeX never left " as ". There are also
> variables TeX-close-quote and TeX-open-quote.

I think I have AUCTeX on, since I have that "LaTeX" menu in the menubar.
 How do I check what values are set in the quote variables?

greetings,

Stefan

Re: Tics problem in LaTeX mode

[Erik Iverson]

Stefan Bienert wrote:
>> AUCTeX switched off? For me AUCTeX never left " as ". There are also
>> variables TeX-close-quote and TeX-open-quote.
> 
> I think I have AUCTeX on, since I have that "LaTeX" menu in the menubar.
>  How do I check what values are set in the quote variables?
> 

You might first try starting emacs *without* your .emacs being loaded, 
to see what behavior you notice, then as suggested by others on the 
list, start uncommenting half of your .emacs at a time until the problem 
reveals itself, and by doing that, you will have narrowed down what is 
causing the issue.

Re: Tics problem in LaTeX mode

[Stefan Bienert]

Erik Iverson wrote:
> 
> 
> Stefan Bienert wrote:
>>> AUCTeX switched off? For me AUCTeX never left " as ". There are also
>>> variables TeX-close-quote and TeX-open-quote.
>>
>> I think I have AUCTeX on, since I have that "LaTeX" menu in the menubar.
>>  How do I check what values are set in the quote variables?
>>
> 
> You might first try starting emacs *without* your .emacs being loaded,
> to see what behavior you notice, then as suggested by others on the
> list, start uncommenting half of your .emacs at a time until the problem
> reveals itself, and by doing that, you will have narrowed down what is
> causing the issue.
> 

OK, `emacs -q` and the problem remains. `emacs -q -no-site-file` and the
tic-trick works again. With '-no-site-file' I get an 'TeX' entry in the
menu-bar.

greetings,

Stefan

Re: Tics problem in LaTeX mode

[Erik Iverson]

Stefan Bienert wrote:
> Erik Iverson wrote:
>>
>> Stefan Bienert wrote:
>>>> AUCTeX switched off? For me AUCTeX never left " as ". There are also
>>>> variables TeX-close-quote and TeX-open-quote.
>>> I think I have AUCTeX on, since I have that "LaTeX" menu in the menubar.
>>>  How do I check what values are set in the quote variables?
>>>
>> You might first try starting emacs *without* your .emacs being loaded,
>> to see what behavior you notice, then as suggested by others on the
>> list, start uncommenting half of your .emacs at a time until the problem
>> reveals itself, and by doing that, you will have narrowed down what is
>> causing the issue.
>>
> 
> OK, `emacs -q` and the problem remains. `emacs -q -no-site-file` and the
> tic-trick works again. With '-no-site-file' I get an 'TeX' entry in the
> menu-bar.
> 

Does C-h v site-run-file RET
give you the name of that site-file?  If so, see what's in that file 
that might be causing the problem.

Re: Tics problem in LaTeX mode

[Stefan Bienert]

Erik Iverson wrote:
> 
> 
> Stefan Bienert wrote:
>> Erik Iverson wrote:
>>>
>>> Stefan Bienert wrote:
>>>>> AUCTeX switched off? For me AUCTeX never left " as ". There are also
>>>>> variables TeX-close-quote and TeX-open-quote.
>>>> I think I have AUCTeX on, since I have that "LaTeX" menu in the
>>>> menubar.
>>>>  How do I check what values are set in the quote variables?
>>>>
>>> You might first try starting emacs *without* your .emacs being loaded,
>>> to see what behavior you notice, then as suggested by others on the
>>> list, start uncommenting half of your .emacs at a time until the problem
>>> reveals itself, and by doing that, you will have narrowed down what is
>>> causing the issue.
>>>
>>
>> OK, `emacs -q` and the problem remains. `emacs -q -no-site-file` and the
>> tic-trick works again. With '-no-site-file' I get an 'TeX' entry in the
>> menu-bar.
>>
> 
> Does C-h v site-run-file RET
> give you the name of that site-file?  If so, see what's in that file
> that might be causing the problem.
> 

Nope, site-run-file is nil.

greetings,

Stefan

Re: Tics problem in LaTeX mode

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 05.04.2010 um 20:36 schrieb Stefan Bienert:

> I think I have AUCTeX on, since I have that "LaTeX" menu in the  
> menubar.
> How do I check what values are set in the quote variables?


C-h v. The AUCTeX (and GNU Emacs) info node(s) should have more details.

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   Pete

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by the fact that, when exposed to the same atmosphere, bread becomes  
hard while crackers become soft

Re: Tics problem in LaTeX mode

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 05.04.2010 um 21:40 schrieb Stefan Bienert:

> `emacs -q -no-site-file` and the
> tic-trick works again. With '-no-site-file' I get an 'TeX' entry in  
> the
> menu-bar.


So it's not AUCTeX... (which probably loads via the user init file)

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Mit friedvollen Grüßen

   Pete

If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament.
				– Florynce Kennedy

Re: Tics problem in LaTeX mode

[Stefan Bienert]

Peter Dyballa wrote:
> 
> Am 05.04.2010 um 21:40 schrieb Stefan Bienert:
> 
>> `emacs -q -no-site-file` and the
>> tic-trick works again. With '-no-site-file' I get an 'TeX' entry in the
>> menu-bar.
> 
> 
> So it's not AUCTeX... (which probably loads via the user init file)

Well, I checked TeX-close-quote and TeX-open-quote anyway, and they are
set to the right values.

greetings,

Stefan


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