From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andreas_R=F6hler?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Collaborative editing and persistently tracking changes Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:21:34 +0200 Message-ID: <4AA8FD5E.3010506@easy-emacs.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1252589041 31535 80.91.229.12 (10 Sep 2009 13:24:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:24:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: David Reitter Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 10 15:23:54 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Mljcw-00065o-5U for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:23:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60120 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mljcv-0007cK-7j for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:23:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MljcS-0007aI-2f for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:23:24 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MljcN-0007Of-HH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:23:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39990 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MljcN-0007OR-9Y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:23:19 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.8]:53318) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MljcM-0000EM-No for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:23:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.178.27] (p54BE985E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.190.152.94]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKt72-1MljcJ2DyT-000Cxv; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:23:16 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20081227) In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18Kb5BYChZbAPLdkomiyaiHqQ5j1auRSnieLoN 4PA9TFGfA1pQmYvk9S/X4WaNjsW4H1UhPc23863MhAI+xPxIr6 uopxdCNyVGC5z5B8tgShDgkW+ceQHfMs0rU8A5XBjs= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:68028 Archived-At: David Reitter wrote: > How would one track changes in Emacs and mark them up directly in an > Emacs buffer? > > I often collaborate with people on documents and it's useful to see > what changes they've made. Many of my collaborators will want to use > Word, if only for its nice change-tracking feature. > > I would need a combination of highlight-changes-mode and a way to save > and load the change history of a buffer into a file, just like MS Word > does it (with the new open docx format). > > One option would be to use some sort of repository, or to store > versions of files before and after the changes and use M-x diff. But > that doesn't do a good job of tracking in-line changes (in times of > soft-wrapping, paragraphs are file lines!), and obviously I can't > force my collaborators to use extra tools. The added pain of having > to manage multiple file versions is also considerable, and there's > limited extra benefit in versioning repositories with, say, > manuscripts. You hardly ever want to inspect older history, or go > back to a previous version. (Having separate branches might work > well, but it's hard to get collaborators to commit to this technical > overhead. And again, even git's merge algorithm is line-based.) > > All in all, I'm missing good Emacs support for non-concurrent > (asynchronous) real-time editing. Suggestions would be welcome. > > - David Reitter > > > What about to translate doc-format into odt, as used by openoffice? These are xml-files basically AFAIK, which may be set under a VC-system like bazaar, RCS, whatever - and edited with emacs xml-mode. Andreas