From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ken Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Portable emacs devices Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:15:09 -0400 Message-ID: <48B6EB2D.7010306@mousecar.com> References: <48B2F043.3020508@gmail.com> <48B4433A.5070709@mousecar.com> <87bpzd5ch9.fsf@kamaloka.dhatu> Reply-To: gebser@mousecar.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1219947374 16034 80.91.229.12 (28 Aug 2008 18:16:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:16:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 28 20:17:07 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KYm3B-00084T-Tc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:16:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56155 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KYm2C-0008F6-Lm for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:15:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KYm1v-0008Et-Pi for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:15:35 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KYm1t-0008E7-Dx for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:15:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54056 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KYm1t-0008E4-AR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:15:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.194]:54746) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KYm1s-0007du-KI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:15:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.0.26] (dsl093-011-017.cle1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.11.17]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKpCa-1KYm1c20eG-0005Fc; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:15:18 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070326) In-Reply-To: <87bpzd5ch9.fsf@kamaloka.dhatu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=5AD091E7 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/vAZtk/RfNgljujKnH0JDp3rs5jgU8a/msP14 1zQW+73Uav76t5lDk/C+ydFZkrhZkJq9GaiHmkjbKhnQnMc+rL Yr4xk8sDI75SqbCdcj5g/NpVwy9pfZS X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:57058 Archived-At: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. -- Albert Einstein On 08/28/2008 12:30 PM Sven Bretfeld wrote: > ken writes: > >> Have a look at the Open Moko phone and >> . It's about the size of an iPphone, but is a >> handheld computer running Linux. It has a phone (of course), GPS & >> mapping (might be handy for biking around), touch screen, USB (albeit >> v.1.1), and some other things. A lot of the functionality is still in >> development though. But if you just want to run emacs on it, that >> shouldn't be a major deal. > > It's no problem at all. In this very second the installation process > of Debian is running on my new OpenMoko which was in my postbox > yesterday. I've already tried Debian on the device yesterday but I > have to reinstall it since I bought an 8GB MicroSD today to have more > space available. Debian is running fine, all packages of the > distribution are available > . You can run xfce and, of > course, Emacs. Emacs is starting up quite slowly, but then it works > smoothly. The keyboard is part of the display and, therefore, quite > small; you have to handle it with a pen. But it's wonderful to be able > to hack in some notes everywhere you go, especially if you are an > addict of org-mode like me. But I wouldn't write a PhD thesis on the > OpenMoko. > > Greetings > > Sven Sven, Congratulations! Yes, I'd agree... I wouldn't want to write a long document on a little touch screen either-- even using emacs. But with the USB port, you could plug a regular keyboard into it. Some years ago I read about a keyboard that was essentially a thin piece of plastic you could roll up when not in use. I also read about a text input device developed by a student at the MIT AI lab. It was a small, palm-sized device that you held in one hand with the cable running down inside your shirt sleeve; it just hangs there when you're not using it. You have to re-learn how to "type" with "keyboard" designed for one-handed (left-handed) use. It was one piece of a complete computer developed as a "wearable computer". I've never heard of any of the wearables coming out on retail markets though. Enjoy your open moko and let us know how it works for you. Regards, ken - -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. -- Albert Einstein -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFItust8CeNiFrQkecRAkrJAJ4h130ABvsXnQFGbDzZNoW/+7Y7ZwCfZySS KVP+SFdF+IR6J5BM9HrI1P8= =De9Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----