From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean-Christophe Helary Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs as a translator's tool Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 08:58:23 +0900 Message-ID: <48A51CD5-B85C-4C89-B4C0-1633C893782A@traduction-libre.org> References: <871rn35lqc.fsf@mbork.pl> <87zh9r45ad.fsf@mbork.pl> <87h7vz2m5g.fsf@ebih.ebihd> <87zh9qr67n.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <3DBA2692-28A0-4AC3-B884-78763A9C7B16@traduction-libre.org> <87tuzyr474.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87h7rwtov7.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87pmpriwvk.fsf@mbork.pl> <87k0fz6pkb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877dbyjr5a.fsf@laposte.net> <87zgot6ejj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87o859eokv.fsf@laposte.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20759"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Kevin Vigouroux Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 22 00:58:59 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mzp20-00054H-Ju for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 00:58:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55926 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mzp1z-0002iL-Ne for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2021 18:58:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52790) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mzp1e-0002hz-NR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2021 18:58:34 -0500 Original-Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.197]:50457) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mzp1b-00038n-Nt for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2021 18:58:34 -0500 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: lists@traduction-libre.org) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 93FD71C0004; Tue, 21 Dec 2021 23:58:27 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87o859eokv.fsf@laposte.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.197; envelope-from=lists@traduction-libre.org; helo=relay5-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:135008 Archived-At: > On Dec 22, 2021, at 4:37, Kevin Vigouroux via Users list for the GNU = Emacs text editor wrote: >=20 > The XLIFF standard does not define which documents should be = supported. XML *Localisation Interchange* File Format As Eric says, the name strongly suggests document types and processes. I'm not saying that's why OmegaT (for ex.) does not work internally with = XLIFF, but that's definitely the reason why a generic translation tool = should not focus on XLIFF support but just accept it as one of other = file formats. For one, when you translate, there are plenty of times when you need to = modify the source, and having XLIFF in the process requires an extra = conversion step each time you do so. > The problem has more to do with your perception of the translation > process, which is not defined by XLIFF. Yes and no. https://maxprograms.com/articles/analysis.html > The application could display > anything else, not just an XML file. What is interesting is that we = can > store and process data with XML. Then you're talking about TMX, not XLIFF. *If* you want to stick to an = XML based standard. PO is just as fine for a lot of use cases. --=20 Jean-Christophe Helary @brandelune https://mac4translators.blogspot.com https://sr.ht/~brandelune/omegat-as-a-book/