From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Behavior of M-x and A-x Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:03:02 +0200 Message-ID: <48A0E146.9050200@gmail.com> References: <9cb65794-fa18-4a0e-9a82-27e85923038a@v26g2000prm.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1218503022 15471 80.91.229.12 (12 Aug 2008 01:03:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:03:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 12 03:04:33 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KSiJI-0004Xr-7Y for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:04:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58258 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSiIM-0004rA-4o for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:03:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KSiI2-0004p8-Ia for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:03:10 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KSiHz-0004li-W5 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:03:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35595 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSiHz-0004lb-SK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:03:07 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]:45027) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KSiHz-0003IQ-AP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:03:07 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-151-176.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.151.176]:60079 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KSiHx-0004JY-71 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:03:05 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! 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Raven wrote: > Lennart Borgman (gmail) wrote: >> Xah wrote: >>> ; setting the PC keyboard's various keys to Super or Hyper >>> (setq w32-pass-lwindow-to-system nil >>> w32-pass-rwindow-to-system nil >>> w32-pass-apps-to-system nil >>> w32-lwindow-modifier 'super ;; Left Windows key >>> w32-rwindow-modifier 'super ;; Right Windows key >>> w32-apps-modifier 'hyper) ;; Menu key >> >> >> Please note that using lwindow/rwindow like this does not work for all >> key sequences unless you are using the patched Emacs+EmacsW32. >> >> > > Could you give me an example of this, Lennart. I use Keytweak (and > rearranged keycaps for Dvorak and a bilaterally symmetrical modifier key > layout [bottom row: super alt ctl spacebar ctl alt super hyper] and I > haven't run into any problems with it yet. I am not using EmacsW32 > although I have had it installed in the past. The only things that get > through from the OS when I'm in Emacs are Alt-Tab and Ctl-Alt-Delete. I do not remember very well any longer since I use the patched version where this can not happen (if you tell Emacs to protect you from it). However it could happen with any of those lwindow/rwindow combinations that MS Window uses. I know I first noticed it with lwindow-e. Though it might depend on other things too. The only thing I know is that it is not guaranteed to work at all if you are not using the patches I have in Emacs+EmacsW32. (I mean accordning to the specs from MS.) If you want to know more then look at MS for LowLevelKeyboardProc. That is why I have those patches. And by the way those part of the patches does not change Emacs way of workin in any other way. They work on a lower level that the rest of Emacs does not see. If I remember correctly now there is however no guaranteed way at all to stop Alt-Tab and Ctl-Alt-Delete from working.