From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Can anybody tell me how to send HTML-format mail in gnus Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:52:57 +0200 Message-ID: <48A06E69.3080409@gmail.com> References: <877iav5s49.fsf@163.com> <86hc9yc5sj.fsf@timbral.net> <877iat7udd.fsf@163.com> <87fxphcsxi.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> <8504ddd4-5e3b-4ed5-bf77-aa9cce81b59a@1g2000pre.googlegroups.com> <87k5esq2g2.fsf@atthis.clsnet.nl> <8663qcd7h3.fsf@timbral.net> <63cf9893-7704-4ceb-a1a0-7a549d57d05f@v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com> <86ej4zedwf.fsf@lifelogs.com> <0a21d521-cbba-4dba-8792-89a042e2b1a3@j1g2000prb.googlegroups.com> <86od43cox6.fsf@lifelogs.com> <0627b0d2-a959-4fe4-a868-f03e72aaafba@1g2000pre.googlegroups.com> <86ljz38uye.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86sktb7brx.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1218473948 24294 80.91.229.12 (11 Aug 2008 16:59:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 11 19:00:00 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KSakO-0007nR-8H for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:59:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34348 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSajS-0007E1-BH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:58:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KSadm-0004ZJ-6o for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:53:06 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KSadk-0004YY-R8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:53:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38697 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSadk-0004YO-IA for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:53:04 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.212]:43128) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KSadk-0004dq-6U for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:53:04 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-151-176.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.151.176]:62433 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KSadh-0004oq-4G; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:53:01 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <86sktb7brx.fsf@lifelogs.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080811-0, 2008-08-11), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.151.176 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KSadh-0004oq-4G. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1KSadh-0004oq-4G 084c4272570057020a40e6eab5a0bc9b X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:56470 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov wrote: > On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:49:21 +0200 "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" wrote: > >>> I'm saying exactly what I said: Emacs has always been aimed at people >>> who can read a manual. That may, to you, imply "tech geek" but I think > > LB> I think that may be true, but please notice that even if this is true > LB> Emacs should be as easy to learn as possible - without loosing power > LB> of course. > > I agree, but I'm saying you have to learn Emacs with a manual and then > it's easy. You can't (easily) do it by exploring. The user interface > is not discoverable or familiar to new users, which is what people > usually mean by "easy to learn." I believe that learning by doing is often more effective, especially since "doing" is what you need with Emacs. Familiarity is perhaps where this begins? Or curiousness? But I think you must be able to start easily to take advantage of learning by doing in the beginning. > This is the big barrier all effective > Emacs users have faced and surmounted by digging into documentation, > books, tutorials, etc. > > Ted >