From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: basic question: going back to dired Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:43:49 +0200 Message-ID: <488670B5.4010302@gmail.com> References: <4884DC7F.6060406@gmail.com> <819feff4-76e3-4bf8-9ece-7b47f099efc2@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <96a95b9c-048d-4bb0-aaa1-4b552623bde6@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <87abg9jyiw.fsf@columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216770266 4956 80.91.229.12 (22 Jul 2008 23:44:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:44:26 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 23 01:45:15 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KLRXb-0006oD-JS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:45:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51841 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLRWi-0008PF-9r for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:44:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLRWO-0008P4-AP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:43:56 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLRWM-0008Od-VW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:43:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48434 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLRWM-0008OQ-NQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:43:54 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.212]:58181) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KLRWM-0001Bh-99 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:43:54 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-151-176.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.151.176]:63713 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KLRWK-000781-4n for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:43:52 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <87abg9jyiw.fsf@columbia.edu> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080722-1, 2008-07-22), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.151.176 X-ACL-Warn: Too high rate of unknown addresses received from you X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KLRWK-000781-4n. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1KLRWK-000781-4n d4eecc9597589c8ae8913c2dd374827c X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:55835 Archived-At: Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: > Of course the emacs community welcomes new functionality. > There is already cua-mode. cua-mode and viper-mode are two examples of customizations that are extremely good. I use them both. > I believe emacs is such a > thing that if you believe your "modernized-mode" is good, > you can release it as a elisp package and put it on the > wiki. If you look into the details of the code you will find that it is often not that easy. Making cua-mode and viper-mode good citizens in Emacs has required quite a lot of efforts to make room for them. Smaller, not that complicated packages (or perhaps rather packages that does not interfer that much with other parts) can be created outside of Emacs. Larger efforts is very hard to do outside - if no one has been smart enough to offer very good and flexible support inside Emacs. Some people are able to work around those difficulties, but it looks very difficult to me (mostly thinking about CEDET).