From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: MBR Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Web Design Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2018 19:01:28 -0500 Message-ID: <460dcf82-5b92-ed1c-4d1a-8817fca32bdb@arlsoft.com> References: <86efn9nt1e.fsf@zoho.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1514878071 16199 195.159.176.226 (2 Jan 2018 07:27:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2018 07:27:51 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 To: Emanuel Berg , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 02 08:27:47 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eWGz1-000383-Sh for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Jan 2018 08:27:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32842 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eWH0z-0003xX-3c for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Jan 2018 02:29:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59554) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eWA27-0002Y3-0O for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jan 2018 19:02:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eWA22-0001i2-53 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jan 2018 19:02:19 -0500 Original-Received: from hampton.hostforweb.net ([181.214.31.159]:51179) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eWA22-0001IN-0l for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jan 2018 19:02:14 -0500 Original-Received: from c-24-34-110-154.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([24.34.110.154]:55478 helo=[192.168.1.121]) by hampton.hostforweb.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89_1) (envelope-from ) id 1eWA1I-0049Q4-7G; Mon, 01 Jan 2018 18:01:29 -0600 In-Reply-To: <86efn9nt1e.fsf@zoho.com> X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - hampton.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - arlsoft.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: hampton.hostforweb.net: authenticated_id: mbr+arlsoft.com/only user confirmed/virtual account not confirmed X-Authenticated-Sender: hampton.hostforweb.net: mbr@arlsoft.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (barebone) [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 181.214.31.159 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 02 Jan 2018 02:28:47 -0500 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:115528 Archived-At: M.R.P.'s original request was: "what gnu tools are their for web design? " If your interpretations of "GNU tools" and "web design", then the answer to the original question is likely "none". If, as you speculated, "web design" means "creating a web page/service and make it look good", that's going to be awfully hard to do using just UTF-8 text. To make it look good, you're going to need something that properly renders font and style changes as well as images. I can't think of any command line tools that do that. But I'm not so sure that command line tools are what M.R.P. is really asking for. Although he/she posted to an emacs discussion group, the reference to "GNU tools" suggests he/she's looking for something outside of emacs. Perhaps the poster thinks gnu tools means non-proprietary. It's also unclear whether "web design" means strictly web design, or website building, or both. In that case, both WordPress and Drupal would qualify, since they're licensed under the GPL and can be used to build websites. The only person who knows what was really being asked for is M.R.P. him/her-self. And he/she's been notably silent since the first post 3 days ago. Mark Rosenthal On 1/1/18 4:55 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Kendall Shaw wrote: > >> What does "gnu tools" mean? What does "web >> design" mean? > "GNU tools" are likely to mean the UNIX CLI > tools that were/are made available to everyone > free of charge thru the GNU project and other > such initiatives. > > Many tools that today hold a GNU licence are > not UNIX tools historically, in the AT&T/Bell > sense, but may still relate to that tradition > or style/attitude of technology. > > "Web design" is likely to mean "creating a web > page/service and make it look good" - "good", > in the eyes of certain beholders, that is. >