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From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Hard to switch from vi
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:53:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <453D019D.6060007@student.lu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <uhcxvgdhj.fsf@comcast.net>

don provan wrote:
> Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se> writes:
>
>   
>> Well, I have to push two keys to type control-f. Don't you?
>>     
>
> Emacs users don't notice this any more than we notice using shift to
> get capital letters: modifiers are an advantage, not an overhead. But
> obviously if you see that as two keystrokes, you're likely to get very
> near double the number of keystrokes for Emacs over vi.
>   

Yes, I do. I always use something like sticky modifiers to save my 
hands. (http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/StickyModifiers)

>   
>> Beginning to use vi keys are rather tough. But once you are used to
>> them they can be very good. I know since they are good for me ;-)
>>     
>
> Yes, I'm obviously not that familiar with the keys, but the point I
> was making was about the fact that the vi approach requires my mind to
> be in sync with the editor's mode, and whenever the two are out of
> sync, there's going to be trouble. I consider this *the* principle
> difference between the two editors, and why I would never for a moment
> consider switching to vi. I hate CAPSLOCK and the PC Insert key for
> the same reason.
>   

I respect your choice, but in the long run it is not that difficult. If 
you use Viper in Emacs you can mix the two ways of editing too. I found 
that convenient. Viper also makes you aware of the mode by changing the 
text cursor.

Of course I know very well where the ESC key is ;-)

  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-23 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-08 23:32 Hard to switch from vi Wen Weng
2006-10-09  0:12 ` Ignacio Mondino
2006-10-09  7:10   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-10-09 10:57     ` Jeremy Hankins
2006-10-09 14:47       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-10-09 17:49         ` Jeremy Hankins
     [not found]     ` <mailman.7914.1160393911.9609.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-10-10 13:03       ` Hadron Quark
2006-10-10 13:50         ` Pascal Bourguignon
2006-10-13 10:36           ` Hadron Quark
2006-10-10 14:11         ` Jeremy Hankins
     [not found]   ` <mailman.7909.1160377822.9609.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-10-10  1:39     ` Wen Weng
     [not found] ` <mailman.7907.1160352764.9609.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-10-09  0:40   ` Wen Weng
2006-10-09  1:48     ` Ajit Mylavarapu
2006-10-09  2:03 ` ext-chunye.wang
2006-10-09  2:09   ` Pascal Bourguignon
2006-10-09  2:44     ` Wen Weng
2006-10-10 12:59       ` Hadron Quark
2006-10-09  2:04 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2006-10-10 11:53   ` Hadron Quark
2006-10-11 13:35   ` martin
2006-10-09  8:52 ` Markus Triska
2006-10-09  8:53   ` David Kastrup
2006-10-09 16:28     ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2006-10-10  1:36   ` Wen Weng
2006-10-10 11:16     ` Markus Triska
2006-10-10 13:05     ` Hadron Quark
2006-10-10 14:02       ` Pascal Bourguignon
2006-10-10 12:20   ` Hadron Quark
2006-10-10 12:32     ` Pascal Bourguignon
2006-10-10 12:38     ` Markus Triska
2006-10-10 12:57       ` Hadron Quark
     [not found] ` <45299CB0.5090003@speakeasy.net>
     [not found]   ` <4529A0E4.60403@charter.net>
2006-10-09  9:58     ` ken
2006-10-10  0:50     ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]     ` <mailman.7911.1160387922.9609.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-10-10  1:22       ` Wen Weng
2006-10-10  2:23         ` Micha Feigin
2006-10-21 17:25         ` don provan
2006-10-22 19:36           ` Lennart Borgman
     [not found]           ` <mailman.132.1161545823.27805.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-10-23 17:15             ` don provan
2006-10-23 17:53               ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2006-10-23 18:56               ` Floyd L. Davidson
2006-10-24  9:01                 ` Mathias Dahl
2006-10-24 10:12                   ` Floyd L. Davidson
2006-10-24 11:25                     ` Mathias Dahl
2006-10-24 18:23                       ` Floyd L. Davidson
2006-10-25 14:21                         ` Mathias Dahl
2006-10-21 21:00         ` Dieter Wilhelm
2006-10-09 12:01 ` lgfang
2006-10-10  1:17   ` Wen Weng
2006-10-09 13:28 ` Ken Goldman
2006-10-09 15:06   ` Malte Spiess
2006-10-10  7:18   ` Giorgos Keramidas
2006-10-11 22:21 ` John Sullivan

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