From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ken Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Installing mew (editing Makefile.in) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:44:36 -0400 Message-ID: <4508A5F4.4080200@speakeasy.net> References: <1156912134.588551.151490@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1157510143.072670.35310@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <1158176051.025364.132680@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1158194755 19706 80.91.229.2 (14 Sep 2006 00:45:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 00:45:55 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 14 02:45:50 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GNfMN-0000Bp-Qf for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 02:45:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GNfMN-0004RK-B8 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:45:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GNfMA-0004R1-Vz for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:45:31 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GNfM8-0004QO-Lc for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:45:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GNfM8-0004QH-EF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:45:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [69.17.117.6] (helo=mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GNfNx-0001lV-OM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:47:22 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 10869 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2006 00:45:26 -0000 Original-Received: from dsl093-011-017.cle1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO [192.168.0.27]) (gebser@[66.93.11.17]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 14 Sep 2006 00:45:26 -0000 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060725) Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <1158176051.025364.132680@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:37356 Archived-At: Ryo wrote: > ken wrote: > [. . .] >> Thanks very much, Ryo. I hope mew works. I've just downloaded and >> untarred mew-5.1 and know I need to edit the values of some variables in >> Makefile.in: >> >> prefix=@prefix@ >> exec_prefix=@exec_prefix@ >> libdir=@libdir@ >> datadir=@datadir@ >> infodir=@infodir@ >> >> These are very much standard variables; I've installed emacs from a >> tarball several times before and it's always been a guessing game, >> trying to figure out what the values of these should be. This guessing >> game is complicated a bit more this time because mew is to work with an >> installation of emacs which was installed, not for the entire >> machine/system, but just for one user. I.e., emacs v.22.0.50.1 was >> installed under a user's $HOME just for the use of this one user. > > Brave you, Ken. :) I've given up installing emacs for myself for a > long time, so I'm afraid I can't help you here. I still install > small packages from tarballs or sources from time to time, but > big ones like emacs and TeX are too time-consuming to me. I use > Debian GNU/Linux, where most things are available in the form of > binary packages. Add-ons to emacs (such as mew) are provided as > separate packages, which are installed for various versions emacs > (xemacs, emacs20, emacs21, etc.) automatically. I know this > doesn't install things under your home directory. I used to install everything from tarballs. The first Linux I ever installed, Slackware, was nothing but tarballs. (It took two or three weeks to download the distro-- using a 2400bd modem-- and then a day to install and configure!) I think since tarballs was all there was and *everyone* was using them, the documentation was better. You could see and understand much better what was going on and it was easier to fix things that didn't go right. But Linux systems have gotten more complex while, at the same time, the documentation has gotten worse, so much so that it's just not fun anymore. And it's not just me saying this. All my old Linux buddies say the same. > > Anyway, I don't know if it's of any help to you, but I found elisp > files and their byte-compiled versions of mew in > /usr/share/emacs21/site-lisp/mew/ . I hope experts on emacs will > help you. Thanks. Yeah, that sounds like where they should go... normally. But again, I'm installing, not for the whole system, but just for the use of one user. So the whole install should go under that one user's $HOME. So the site-lisp directory is at ~/linux/tarballs/emacs/site-lisp/. Well, so I guess after I install mew there should be a mew directory there. We'll see how that goes. > > Regards, > Ryo Thanks, Ryo.