Re: Any good stuff for emacs study ?

Re: Any good stuff for emacs study ?

[Pascal Bourguignon]

Bo Yang <struggleyb@gmail.com> writes:

> I want to use emacs as my first editor because I heard that it is very
> flexible
> and can be used to edit many lauguage as well as be used as mail client and
> many many others .
> But the manual at gnu is too long to read completely as a tutorial , and
> is there
> any good book or manual to begin with ?

- Launch emacs.
- Type C-h t  (that means, type: control-h, then t).
- Read the tutorial; it's only 840 lines.
- Use emacs!


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RE: Any good stuff for emacs study ?

[Drew Adams]

    > But the manual at gnu is too long to read completely as a
    > tutorial, and is there any good book or manual to begin with?

    - Launch emacs.
    - Type C-h t  (that means, type: control-h, then t).
    - Read the tutorial; it's only 840 lines.
    - Use emacs!

Others have also recommended the Emacs Wiki and the Emacs manual. I would
point out that the place to start on the wiki is here:
http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/EmacsNewbie. That page will get you
started and it can point you to other learning resources (e.g. books) as
well. Also, (like any good manual) the Emacs manual has the most basic
topics near the beginning, and they are usually identified as such.

The most important thing to know about the Emacs manual is that it is always
available, with easy browsing, searching, and index lookup. Use `C-h i' to
access it (choose Emacs manual in the list of manuals). Use `q' to quit,
then `C-h i' again later (in the same Emacs session) to pick up where you
last left off.

Emacs help is also always available - see #3 below.

Here's the recipe for learning:

1. Start with the Emacs tutorial. The post above should have said "use" the
tutorial, not "read" it. It walks you through learning Emacs by using it.

2. Learn how to access the Emacs manual and how to look things up in it,
starting with `i' as Eli mentioned.

3. Use Emacs, and while you use it ask it! Get to know Emacs help commands:
`C-h k', `C-h f', `C-h v', `C-h m', `C-h a' -- use `C-h h' to see them all.
Examples: 1) You want to find a command that deletes a line, so you try `C-h
a line' to see all commands with "line" in their name. 2) You want to know
what hitting a given sequences of keys will do, so you try `C-h k' then type
the key sequence.

4. Don't forget the wiki. People like you wrote it to help people like you.
And you can contribute (questions, experiences, suggestions...).


Bottom line: You can be doing amazing stuff in a short time, but you can
also spend a lifetime or two learning more - Emacs is unlimited, but don't
be discouraged by the incredible amount of stuff you can learn.

Many Emacs learners (like myself) are Emacs addicts - they just like
learning new things and sharing them with others. That does not mean that
you must master a zillion complexities before you can be productive with
Emacs. You'll be productive within a few minutes.

Re: Any good stuff for emacs study ?

[Bo Yang]

Drew Adams 写道:
>     > But the manual at gnu is too long to read completely as a
>     > tutorial, and is there any good book or manual to begin with?
>
>     - Launch emacs.
>     - Type C-h t  (that means, type: control-h, then t).
>     - Read the tutorial; it's only 840 lines.
>     - Use emacs!
>
> Others have also recommended the Emacs Wiki and the Emacs manual. I would
> point out that the place to start on the wiki is here:
> http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/EmacsNewbie. That page will get you
> started and it can point you to other learning resources (e.g. books) as
> well. Also, (like any good manual) the Emacs manual has the most basic
> topics near the beginning, and they are usually identified as such.
>
> The most important thing to know about the Emacs manual is that it is always
> available, with easy browsing, searching, and index lookup. Use `C-h i' to
> access it (choose Emacs manual in the list of manuals). Use `q' to quit,
> then `C-h i' again later (in the same Emacs session) to pick up where you
> last left off.
>
> Emacs help is also always available - see #3 below.
>
> Here's the recipe for learning:
>
> 1. Start with the Emacs tutorial. The post above should have said "use" the
> tutorial, not "read" it. It walks you through learning Emacs by using it.
>
> 2. Learn how to access the Emacs manual and how to look things up in it,
> starting with `i' as Eli mentioned.
>
> 3. Use Emacs, and while you use it ask it! Get to know Emacs help commands:
> `C-h k', `C-h f', `C-h v', `C-h m', `C-h a' -- use `C-h h' to see them all.
> Examples: 1) You want to find a command that deletes a line, so you try `C-h
> a line' to see all commands with "line" in their name. 2) You want to know
> what hitting a given sequences of keys will do, so you try `C-h k' then type
> the key sequence.
>
> 4. Don't forget the wiki. People like you wrote it to help people like you.
> And you can contribute (questions, experiences, suggestions...).
>
>
> Bottom line: You can be doing amazing stuff in a short time, but you can
> also spend a lifetime or two learning more - Emacs is unlimited, but don't
> be discouraged by the incredible amount of stuff you can learn.
>
> Many Emacs learners (like myself) are Emacs addicts - they just like
> learning new things and sharing them with others. That does not mean that
> you must master a zillion complexities before you can be productive with
> Emacs. You'll be productive within a few minutes.
>
>
>
>   
Thanks for all your replies , it is greatly appriciate !
I think I know where I can begin with Emacs !
Thanks again !
> _______________________________________________
> help-gnu-emacs mailing list
> help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs
>
>   

RE: Any good stuff for emacs study ?

[Drew Adams]

    Thanks for all your replies , it is greatly appriciate !
    I think I know where I can begin with Emacs !

You're welcome.

Another tip, for posting to mailing lists:

Include just enough of a message you reply to to help readers understand the
context. In particular, unless it is needed for clarity, avoid copying a
long message and adding just a line or two below it. Thanks.

Re: Any good stuff for emacs study ?

[Bastien]

Bo Yang <struggleyb@gmail.com> writes:

> I want to use emacs as my first editor because I heard that it is very
> flexible and can be used to edit many lauguage as well as be used as
> mail client and many many others .  But the manual at gnu is too long to
> read completely as a tutorial , and is there any good book or manual to
> begin with ?

Don't miss this huge ressource : <http://www.emacswiki.org>

-- 
Bastien

Re: Any good stuff for emacs study ?

[Pawel]

Bastien writes:
 > Bo Yang <struggleyb@gmail.com> writes:
 > 
 > > I want to use emacs as my first editor because I heard that it is very
 > > flexible and can be used to edit many lauguage as well as be used as
 > > mail client and many many others .  But the manual at gnu is too long to
 > > read completely as a tutorial , and is there any good book or manual to
 > > begin with ?
 > 
 > Don't miss this huge ressource : <http://www.emacswiki.org>
 > 
 > -- 
 > Bastien
 > _______________________________________________
 > help-gnu-emacs mailing list
 > help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
 > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs
 > 

Then, if You play a while with it, try elisp, which is a language emacs was written in.
There is great manual (very easy to understand) for that:
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs-lisp-intro/html_node/index.html

I read it and I must say that it opens even larger door to that what is meant by "flexible".

Re: Any good stuff for emacs study ?

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Bastien <bastien@xxx.fr>
> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 10:24:12 +0200
> 
> Don't miss this huge ressource : <http://www.emacswiki.org>

And don't miss the huge resource that is the user manual.  While
reading it in its entirety is not recommended, looking up subject via
the `i' command is _the_ most efficient way of finding information
about various Emacs features.

Re: Any good stuff for emacs study ?

[Gary Wessle]

Bo Yang <struggleyb@gmail.com> writes:

> I want to use emacs as my first editor because I heard that it is very
> flexible
> and can be used to edit many lauguage as well as be used as mail client and
> many many others .
> But the manual at gnu is too long to read completely as a tutorial , and
> is there
> any good book or manual to begin with ?
> 
> Thanks in advance !

I was in your position not too long ago, use Learning GNU Emacs by
Debra Cameron, James Elliott, "O'Reilly ISBN 0596006489" third
edition.

Any good stuff for emacs study ?

[Bo Yang]

I want to use emacs as my first editor because I heard that it is very
flexible
and can be used to edit many lauguage as well as be used as mail client and
many many others .
But the manual at gnu is too long to read completely as a tutorial , and
is there
any good book or manual to begin with ?

Thanks in advance !

Re: Any good stuff for emacs study ?

[Fredrik Bulow]

"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
> 1. Start with the Emacs tutorial. The post above should have said "use" the
> tutorial, not "read" it. It walks you through learning Emacs by using it.
>
> 2. Learn how to access the Emacs manual and how to look things up in it,
> starting with `i' as Eli mentioned.
>
> 3. Use Emacs, and while you use it ask it! Get to know Emacs help commands:
> `C-h k', `C-h f', `C-h v', `C-h m', `C-h a' -- use `C-h h' to see them all.
> Examples: 1) You want to find a command that deletes a line, so you try `C-h
> a line' to see all commands with "line" in their name. 2) You want to know
> what hitting a given sequences of keys will do, so you try `C-h k' then type
> the key sequence.
>
> 4. Don't forget the wiki. People like you wrote it to help people like you.
> And you can contribute (questions, experiences, suggestions...).


... and when you find something somewhere that you think is useful,
bookmark it by using C-x r m. You can list bookmarks with C-x r l or
jump to a bookmark with C-x r b.

Remember that you can search all manuals using the s key (not C-s but
just s). This search goes through an entire manual, not just the page
you're looking at.

/Fredrik