From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Printing from WindowXP version of emacs
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 23:48:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43A9DBB8.3010204@student.lu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <uirtidrky.fsf@gnu.org>
Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>>Actually the printer processor first calls GDI which produces EMF
>>that is send to the printer driver.
>>
>>
>
>I don;t think we should worry about what the printer processor does:
>it's part of the OS. What matters is what it accepts, not what it
>does with that.
>
>
I think we need all information we got to get the pieces together here.
Unfortunately we have to go into a guessing game since none of us seem
to be able to find all information we need here.
>
>
>>So this can print text (only ASCII actually if I remember
>>correctly).
>>
>>
>
>You probably mean ANSI (which includes 8-bit non-ASCII characters in
>addition to ASCII), but I think it's more general than that. Why
>would the mechanism I described be limited to ANSI text? Why cannot
>it work for Unicode as well?
>
>
No. I mean ASCII. Please look at the description of how the Text type is
handled. That is the description I gave above where the GDI converts to
EMF. In this process only ASCII is accepted according to the manuals at MS.
>
>
>>That should mean that the above "copy" should work.
>>
>>
>
>I don't see how these two issues are related; perhaps I'm missing
>something. If they are NOT related, then the fact that COPY doesn't
>work and the inner workings of the Windows printing mechanism are two
>almost unrelated subjects, and we are wasting our time talking about
>the latter when we are interested in the former.
>
>
I am not sure they are unrelated. It might have to do with what the
process above accepts, but I am not at all sure. I am just trying to
keep all doors open at the moment. It make things a bit more complicated
of course, but we are looking for some facts we have not found yet. We
may well be in a part of the system that sometimes work, but for reasons
we do not know yet.
I tend to work this way in cases like this. Please do not assume that I
am not aware that they may not be related. I am.
>
>
>>However I do not remember that I saw anything about exactly when this
>>works. Do you have an exact link where you found this?
>>
>>
>
>Here, for example:
>
>
Sorry, I think you did not send that.
>
>
>>Last time I looked into this I stopped about here because I thought it
>>was not worth the trouble. As far as I can see it will only handle ASCII
>>text when it works. I have seen very little that makes me believe that
>>GDI can handle PostScript and convert that to EMF in the above scenario.
>>
>>
>
>There's no need to convert PostScript to EMF, since a PostScript
>printer will be happy accepting the PostScript program as plain text.
>
>
What do you mean? How can you assume that it is a PostScript printer? I
have not been talking about any such.
And if it where, how can you assume that it is in a state where it
accepts PostScript? That depends on the behaviour of the specific
printer driver. I do not believe we can assume anything about that -
except that it will behave (reasonably) well if we are using the MS
Windows printing interface in the way it is recommended in the
documentation.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-12-21 22:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-12-15 15:31 Printing from WindowXP version of emacs sbrown
2005-12-15 18:30 ` Mathias Dahl
2005-12-15 18:35 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-16 7:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-16 8:29 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-16 8:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-16 14:53 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-16 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-17 2:42 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-17 8:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-17 9:38 ` Peter Dyballa
2005-12-17 11:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-17 15:50 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-17 16:31 ` Peter Dyballa
2005-12-17 21:25 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-17 23:55 ` Peter Dyballa
2005-12-21 18:15 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-21 21:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-21 22:50 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-21 23:41 ` Edward O'Connor
2005-12-21 23:51 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-17 9:51 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-17 13:11 ` Lennart Borgman
[not found] ` <mailman.19684.1134911288.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-12-18 18:22 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2005-12-18 19:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.19772.1134933877.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-12-19 17:53 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2005-12-19 21:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.19861.1135028638.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-12-20 1:11 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2005-12-20 4:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.19893.1135054520.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-12-20 22:40 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2005-12-21 4:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.20004.1135140203.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-12-22 23:11 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2005-12-23 8:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2005-12-30 0:38 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2005-12-30 11:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.20871.1135945105.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-05 6:53 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2006-01-05 16:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.21485.1136479302.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-07 12:02 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2006-01-07 12:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-20 14:45 ` Peter Boettcher
2005-12-20 20:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-20 22:22 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-21 4:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-21 7:49 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-21 18:39 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-21 19:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-21 20:11 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-21 22:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-21 22:48 ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2005-12-22 4:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-22 8:02 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-22 19:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-22 20:46 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-23 8:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-23 14:06 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-23 15:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-24 13:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-24 14:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-24 14:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-16 9:26 ` Peter Dyballa
2005-12-16 10:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-16 9:19 ` Peter Dyballa
2005-12-16 10:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-16 14:19 ` Lennart Borgman
[not found] ` <mailman.19545.1134911104.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-12-19 9:58 ` Mathias Dahl
2005-12-19 21:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2005-12-20 7:41 ` Mathias Dahl
2005-12-20 19:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-20 20:59 ` Drew Adams
2005-12-15 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2005-12-15 19:36 Jay Bingham
2005-12-19 11:18 LENNART BORGMAN
2005-12-19 21:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-19 22:11 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-19 23:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-19 23:30 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-20 4:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] <mailman.19804.1134991437.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-12-19 16:28 ` Mathias Dahl
2005-12-20 10:58 LENNART BORGMAN
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2005-12-20 17:15 ` Mathias Dahl
2006-01-03 0:49 BRUCE INGALLS
2006-01-03 5:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-03 9:44 ` Peter Dyballa
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2006-01-03 13:06 ` Chris McMahan
2006-01-03 19:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-03 21:52 ` Lennart Borgman
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2006-01-03 22:08 ` David Kastrup
2006-01-03 22:12 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-03 13:08 LENNART BORGMAN
2006-01-03 19:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-04 0:34 BRUCE INGALLS
2006-01-04 10:00 ` Peter Dyballa
2006-01-05 1:56 ` BRUCE INGALLS
2006-01-05 13:01 ` Peter Dyballa
2006-01-05 15:41 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-05 21:17 ` Peter Dyballa
2006-01-06 8:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-05 20:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-05 21:18 ` Peter Dyballa
2006-01-06 8:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-06 11:59 ` Peter Dyballa
2006-01-06 14:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-04 5:10 BRUCE INGALLS
2006-01-04 8:45 LENNART BORGMAN
2006-01-04 18:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-04 19:14 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-05 1:17 ` BRUCE INGALLS
2006-01-05 9:24 LENNART BORGMAN
2006-01-05 16:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-05 21:01 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-06 9:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-07 5:00 BRUCE INGALLS
2006-01-07 9:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-08 1:06 BRUCE INGALLS
2006-01-08 4:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-09 8:29 LENNART BORGMAN
2006-01-09 11:42 ` Lennart Borgman
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