From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: zaphod Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Remap key to UK pound sign Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:13:32 +0100 Organization: Customer of PlusNet plc (http://www.plus.net) Message-ID: <42bb25fe$0$41933$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> References: <42b95e49$0$2412$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> <42b9cecc$0$2061$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net> <42ba022d$0$2420$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1119561201 443 80.91.229.2 (23 Jun 2005 21:13:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 23 23:13:17 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DlZ0e-00006A-Vm for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:13:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DlZ7Y-0000d0-NG for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:20:24 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!news.glorb.com!zen.net.uk!dedekind.zen.co.uk!nntp-peering.plus.net!ptn-nntp-feeder02.plus.net!ptn-nntp-spool01.plus.net!ptn-nntp-spool03.plus.net!ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net!not-for-mail User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 36 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 24144b00.ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net Original-X-Trace: DXC=70a^<4W]RBSn4VhQn\O2iYigd3Y`7Rb; ^@`8gV4CC7IW1?KeQZ3XN3US1^?2[>iGaXX_:1ZeT2^dQ`2_MHma2l3U Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@plus.net Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:132144 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:27619 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:27619 Peter Dyballa wrote: > Recent Carbon Emacsen use QuickDraw from the days of Mac OS 8 or 9 > (last millennium). Then, there were anything but Mac encodings, I think > Mac OS 9.1 brought some early Unicode support to the Mac. I remember > that I already had some struggle with fontsets then. Today the > developers can't test everything unless they're hundred or more. Check > in CharacterPalette the Unicode blocks, i.e. scripts supported by > Unicode! The few developers that actually work on display issues can't > do that. And it's a nice feature allowing me to customize some things > ... Prêt-à-porter Carbon Emacsen exist too. They have the font or > fontset and other issues fixed. Why didn't you choose any of these: > (http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/aquamacs/Aquamacs-Emacs > -0.9.2b8.dmg?download + http://aquamacs.org/, > http://yaced.sourceforge.net/, > http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/unix_open_source/ > carbonemacspackage.html ? > > The cheap solution is to use the bitmapped GNU Intl fonts > -etl-fixed-... I think all European glyphs are contained in them, but > they look pretty ugly. So Carbon Emacs is something of a hack near the > end of a dead-end street. There is an effort going on to use ATSUI to > 'render' text in Emacs. I can't see much progress, and Christmas > (2006?) is far away either. > > The best performance is brought to you by Unicode Emacs 23. It runs in > X11. When using Apple's quartz-wm as proxy for your preferred Window > Manager you can copy&paste with other Quartz/Aqua based Mac OS X tools. > Similarly well is GNU Emacs 22 performing in X11, it only needs some > more advise in fontsets. 'Fraid this is well over my head. I just want an editor that works so that I can get some work done instead of having to know as much as the Emacs development team just to get it working :-( Zaphod