From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ken Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Recommendations: emacs files containing multiple languages Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:54:48 -0400 Message-ID: <42592218.1060903@speakeasy.net> References: <86zmwfv3hj.fsf@localhost.localdomain> <86oecs7kvx.fsf@localhost.localdomain> <86is2v78hs.fsf@localhost.localdomain> Reply-To: gebser@speakeasy.net NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1113137852 13251 80.91.229.2 (10 Apr 2005 12:57:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:57:32 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 10 14:57:29 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKc0F-0001l0-45 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:57:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKba9-0001Ve-4P for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:30:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DKbZp-0001Sa-17 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:30:09 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DKbZk-0001RI-W1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:30:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DKbZk-0001R3-N4 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:30:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [69.17.117.28] (helo=mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.34) id 1DKbzD-0007U8-VQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:56:24 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 12592 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2005 12:55:00 -0000 Original-Received: from dsl093-011-017.cle1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO [192.168.0.100]) (cousin@[66.93.11.17]) (envelope-sender ) by mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 10 Apr 2005 12:55:00 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040831 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de, ru, fr-fr Original-To: GNU Emacs List In-Reply-To: <86is2v78hs.fsf@localhost.localdomain> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:25527 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:25527 vedm wrote: > [....] > > >My cyrillic files are encoded in iso8859-5, just because that encoding >is within the ASCII set and is enough for the cyrilic script. Yes, I >agree that UTF is better for handling all sorts of languages, but I >still haven't tried to use it in emacs and Xterm. (One disadvantage of >UTF is that the UTF files (at least cyrillic files) are almost two times >bigger compared to ASCII encoded files). > > In these days of extreme code bloat, large document files don't bother me too much. Getting the functionality I need, though, is. This week I've been wondering how to compose and edit text files containing multiple languages... like English, German, Russian, French, and ancient Greek... all in the same file. Is this even possible in emacs? If so, any tips? I've heard of an editor called "sam", developed by Rob Pike, that can do this. But in my many years of using emacs and reading lists like this, I've never heard of emacs being capable of such a wild thing. tia, ken -- A lot of us are working harder than we want, at things we don't like to do. Why? ...In order to afford the sort of existence we don't care to live. -- Bradford Angier