From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail
From: iku.iwasa@gmail.com
Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help
Subject: Re: viper-mode C-[ behavior change in Emacs 24.4
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 07:14:26 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <41cf5624-a494-4fed-bdd8-bdfc7e0796e3@googlegroups.com>
References: <874mxr7qgp.fsf@debian.uxu>
	<87fvhalaz4.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com>
	<jwvppgca8nf.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.help@gnu.org>
	<mailman.6775.1407426002.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1407521708 15318 80.91.229.3 (8 Aug 2014 18:15:08 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 18:15:08 +0000 (UTC)
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 08 20:15:03 2014
Return-path: <help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org>
Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org
Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17])
	by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69)
	(envelope-from <help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org>)
	id 1XFogx-00074s-9e
	for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 20:15:03 +0200
Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52505 helo=lists.gnu.org)
	by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71)
	(envelope-from <help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org>)
	id 1XFogw-0000Bx-QC
	for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 14:15:02 -0400
X-Received: by 10.66.168.197 with SMTP id zy5mr12833139pab.7.1407507267572;
	Fri, 08 Aug 2014 07:14:27 -0700 (PDT)
X-Received: by 10.51.18.100 with SMTP id gl4mr98023igd.6.1407507267376; Fri,
	08 Aug 2014 07:14:27 -0700 (PDT)
Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!h18no16207290igc.0!news-out.google.com!px9ni588igc.0!nntp.google.com!h18no16207279igc.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
In-Reply-To: <mailman.6775.1407426002.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=124.45.143.95;
	posting-account=-k7lpQoAAADFhW2PmpD9EDKTsentWQiy
Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 124.45.143.95
User-Agent: G2/1.0
Injection-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 14:14:27 +0000
Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:206861
X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 14:00:17 -0400
X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14
Precedence: list
List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/help-gnu-emacs>,
	<mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs>
List-Post: <mailto:help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs>,
	<mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org
Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org
Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:99144
Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help/99144>

On Friday, August 8, 2014 12:39:57 AM UTC+9, York Zhao wrote:
> Is there any reason for having to struggle with viper-mode instead of using
> 
> Evil? Evil is the most sophisticated Vim emulation layer so far. Give a go
> 
> and
> 
> I'm sure you will love it.

For those who are familiar with vim, evil seems the best.

I am not. I prefer nvi, which comes with base distribution of *BSD.
And viper-mode is very close to nvi.
I am happy with viper-mode.