From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Barak Zalstein" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Time to throw away my LOVE - Emacs ? Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 16:20:14 +0300 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <40c5bd4c$1@news.012.net.il> References: <7e4qpod2db.fsf@ada2.unipv.it> <40c49fc7$1@news.012.net.il> <87ise3t36i.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> <4rq3ac.q5.ln@acm.acm> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1088534810 14934 80.91.224.253 (29 Jun 2004 18:46:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 18:46:50 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 29 20:46:36 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BfNcq-0002Mu-00 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 20:46:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BfNeV-00044n-Rs for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:48:19 -0400 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 25 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.117.148.194 Original-X-Trace: news.012.net.il 1086700876 212.117.148.194 (8 Jun 2004 15:21:16 +0200) Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!News-Peer-Europe!news.stupi.se!newsfeed.albacom.net!seanews2.seabone.net!news.012.net.il Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:123690 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:19058 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:19058 "Alan Mackenzie" wrote in message news:v064ac.ok.ln@acm.acm... > Oh no they won't! They most certainly won't be appearing on my beloved > Linux tty, where I run Emacs. (I only ever start Emacs in X for testing > purposes). A fully maximized Cygwin window containing Emacs will look as pleasant as a Linux tty (and skips GUI portability design decisions altoghether). Unfortunately, enough reasons to run away from this mode: Backspace mismatched with Control-H (or other wrong keymaps), Emacs interpretation of xls, doc, pdf, and html is nonexistent or insufficient. And of course the occasional application that runs only in GUI. As much as I would want to see Emacs as "one stop shop" for all computing needs, interacting with non-Emacs users means to use a common ground, which sometimes means that Emacs compliance is too much of a distraction to follow. You cannot really say "Emacs is the right tool" when investment in enhanced productivity is contradicted by other programming paradigms (anything visual). Barak