From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Brooks Moses Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Program structure of Pstricks, what is its basic structure? Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 23:49:38 -0800 Organization: Stanford University, Mechanical Engineering Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <403B0212.FD488946@cits1.stanford.edu> References: <42414174.0402221953.24c938a6@posting.google.com> <42414174.0402231604.5a4c2a1a@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1077609805 28573 80.91.224.253 (24 Feb 2004 08:03:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 08:03:25 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 24 09:03:19 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AvXXD-00084Z-00 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 09:03:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AvXVC-0002iV-JO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 03:01:14 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.lang.postscript,gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 44 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: dnab42a629.stanford.edu Original-X-Trace: news.Stanford.EDU 1077608985 27255 171.66.166.41 (24 Feb 2004 07:49:45 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: news@news.stanford.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu comp.text.tex:271461 comp.lang.postscript:76675 gnu.emacs.help:121167 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:17118 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:17118 Tim McNamara wrote: > crashedandburnt1@hotmail.com (Crashedandburnt) writes: > > Unfortunately, the Achilles Heel of the academia is ego. Often grad > > students fired for ego. > > Umm, a grad student can't be fired, since they're paying for the > education they are receiving. Actually, in a lot of cases (mine, for instance), that's not the case. In my experience, it's almost universal that Ph.D. students are working with either a research assistanceship or a teaching assistanceship, which pays for their tuition and a small stipend to live on. Yes, it's essentially a pittance above the cost of tuition, but it's certainly a paying job that one could be fired from, and being fired from it would make it pretty much financially unfeasible to continue one's studies. That said, I happen to work in the same university as Dr. Knuth, and I find the previous poster's comments about ego in academic institutions to be completely insupportable by the evidence. Certainly there are no fewer egotistical people than anywhere else, but it doesn't lead to such absurdities as are claimed, and it certainly is not the one major flaw of the culture that he or she claims it to be. Then again, I don't see a comment along the lines of, "this is as much work as I wish to put into this thing that I gave away freely seven years ago, and if you can't understand it, that's not my problem," to be a sign of an ego problem, and I gather that the original poster does. > > 5;; This preamble is not an accusation or directed to any person and > > do not get angry. I hope replies have not been initiated before this > > point. > > It certainly reads like an accusation, and your comments were quite > pointedly directed at Dr. Van Zandt. It is rather remarkable how often posters to Usenet seem to believe that, if they use the right disclaimer, they don't have to be responsible for what they actually say. - Brooks -- The "bmoses-nospam" address is valid; no unmunging needed.