From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Craig A. Finseth Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: OSX Meta bound to Esc! Date: 15 Jan 2004 14:55:14 GMT Organization: Firwood Consulting Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <4006a9d2$0$41283$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com> References: <140120041853024358%stupidnewsprogram@home.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1074179105 31273 80.91.224.253 (15 Jan 2004 15:05:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:05:05 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 15 16:05:02 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Ah93O-0006VR-00 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 16:05:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Ah90v-0007qg-Ce for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 10:02:29 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.uchicago.edu!yellow.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!feed1.newsreader.com!newsreader.com!zeus.visi.com!phobos.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!news-1.mpls.visi.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs Original-Lines: 15 Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Jan 2004 08:55:14 CST Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 1ba5251d.newsreader.visi.com Original-X-Trace: DXC=o5X^4oQOdc:M[DI2d^GNhk:Qb9OVR Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@visi.com Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:120125 comp.emacs:82849 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:16064 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:16064 In article , Konrad Hinsen wrote: ... >I have probably missed the start of this thread, but I am a bit >surprised about it. Even the non-windowing emacs that Apple ships with >MacOS X uses the option key as the meta key (they couldn't use the >command key as that is used by the terminal). Nobody *has* to use ESC on >a Mac. Except, of course, those of us who learned Emacs over 25 years ago on terminals without META keys and never switched...using ESC for meta is now hardwired into my nervous sytsem. (For that matter, the basic Emacs editing keys are hardwired into my nervous system...) Craig