From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "B. T. Raven" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: keyboard-translate working for Control but not for Alt Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 23:02:57 -0500 Message-ID: <4-GdnZCNNbLNOubXnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@sysmatrix.net> References: <431b46e1-18f0-4124-b8b0-dd26500ae158@z4g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <96733ace-3b9c-4aad-a1de-d8ea5bf27ea2@o13g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1249620139 20464 80.91.229.12 (7 Aug 2009 04:42:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:42:19 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 07 06:42:13 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MZHHP-0006oC-VQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:42:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38264 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MZHHP-0005E1-Bv for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 00:42:11 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.news2me.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!novia!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!backlog2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.sysmatrix.net!news.sysmatrix.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 23:02:24 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 33 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.73.131.94 Original-X-Trace: sv3-0eWlQlhnWWRL2wRYAOCDj85kLjXFmhE2NMDDf2+rIYJvPRLP95MqKGN5H/IM9ZDsEhRDsKNjpQ/zzV3!/zYufAbhBg6cLmYes8ze2M6S2mdVi9ZwQ5KxTK5Ud5fTVYLT7AwoKUjV/Dp24cOhBlX6SxUBQpQh!7dJrzW1lcHGQ+Ua0TFjMH4YQd2QbRg== Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@sysmatrix.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.39 Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:171732 comp.emacs:98545 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:66910 Archived-At: Elena wrote: > On 6 Ago, 23:04, Elena wrote: >> On 6 Ago, 18:34, "B. T. Raven" wrote: >> >>> A conservative approach to Emacs ergonomics with a Dvorak keyboard on >>> w32 is to pull the keycaps, including the bottom row and use Keytweak >>> to reassign the mod keys: >>> super alt ctl spacebar ctl alt super hyper >> What do you use the Hyper key for? > > Wait a moment! I don't think that Hyper is available on Windows... is > it? > > Thanks You also need this in your .emacs: (setq w32-pass-lwindow-to-system nil w32-pass-rwindow-to-system nil w32-pass-apps-to-system nil w32-lwindow-modifier 'super ;; Left Windows w32-rwindow-modifier 'super ;; Right Windows w32-apps-modifier 'hyper) ;; App-Menu (key to right of Right Windows) I discovered that I don't use hyper for anything. But I *could*. Btw, even with this setup, a lot of mswin key combos leak through, making them unavailable to Emacs, but if you look at them a little cross-eyed they can be seen as features rather than bugs. E.g. repeated Alt-tab cycles through loaded windows apps whether you want to or not. Ed