From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Joerg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: paragraph definition problems Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 06:00:01 GMT Organization: The University of Melbourne Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <3f62b25c@news.unimelb.edu.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1063432890 15450 80.91.224.253 (13 Sep 2003 06:01:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 06:01:30 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 13 08:01:28 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19y3TM-0001SM-00 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 08:01:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 19y3SZ-0005XQ-A4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 02:00:39 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news1.optus.net.au!optus!news.optus.net.au!53ab2750!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 30 User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: mh-wireless12.medley.unimelb.edu.au X-Original-Trace: 13 Sep 2003 15:59:57 +1000, mh-wireless12.medley.unimelb.edu.au X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.250.20.3 X-Original-Trace: 13 Sep 2003 16:00:16 +1000, 128.250.20.3 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.21.131.11 Original-X-Trace: news.optus.net.au 1063432801 203.21.131.11 (Sat, 13 Sep 2003 16:00:01 EST) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 16:00:01 EST Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:116581 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:12501 Hello, I'm having problems with the definition of paragraphs in emacs 21.2.93.1. It is important for me because I think explicit fill uses that definition when filling. In the description of the paragraph-start variable it says that the given regexp should match lines that start OR separate paragraphs, and that it is matched against the text at the left margin. The standard for that option is "[ \t\n\f]" (at least in my version). If I interpret that correctly it means "every line starting with a space, a tab, a new line or a line feed" in the context of paragraph-start. Let's say I've got the following text: This is a paragraph. This should be a new paragraph because of the space at the beginning. Now, if I press M-h to select the paragraph in the second line, the line above is also selected, in spite of the space in the beginning of the second one. Also M-q fills those "paragraphs" together. Thus, I got the feeling that I can change the paragraph-start and paragraph-separator variables randomly, and the behaviour doesn't change. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you! Regards, Jörg