From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Platon Pronko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Is there a way to avoid clobbering minibuffer by messages? 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I use ivy and tramp, and I often notice that tramp messages are output to minibuffer while I'm in the process of connecting to the host, which breaks formatting of the minibuffer. I also noticed messages messing up minibuffer contents on many other occasions. Is there a way to put messages somewhere else? Or maybe the other way around - keep messages in minibuffer, but use ivy in some other minibuffer? -- Best regards, Platon Pronko PGP 2A62D77A7A2CB94E