From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: editing, searching minibuffer content [was: Feeling lost without tabs] Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 08:25:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3b508437-559c-4653-aa80-185c788bb83b@default> References: <9865c6d8-3dbd-4fba-aa9b-96a1c39e95cf@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1446567947 8442 80.91.229.3 (3 Nov 2015 16:25:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 16:25:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Filipp Gunbin , swe20144@gmail.com Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 03 17:25:33 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZteOq-0000rC-67 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2015 17:25:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49656 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZteOp-00047D-CH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2015 11:25:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53897) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZteOd-000476-Gy for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2015 11:25:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZteOZ-0008S1-IT for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2015 11:25:19 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:36039) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZteOZ-0008Rg-Cu for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2015 11:25:15 -0500 Original-Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id tA3GP8IC026335 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 3 Nov 2015 16:25:10 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id tA3GP8Hv012987 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 3 Nov 2015 16:25:08 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0010.oracle.com (abhmp0010.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id tA3GP75f016771; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 16:25:07 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:107909 Archived-At: > When I started using Emacs I didn't know that I can use isearch in > minibuffer. When I found that possibility, things became simpler. I > frequently think that things like that probably should be mentioned in > manual / tutorial somewhere near the beginning... Yes. It is not as well known as it could be that you can generally edit the contents of the minibuffer. And that includes Isearch. There are only a few keys that have other than their usual meanings in the minibuffer keymaps. Unfortunately some of those few keys are commonly used for editing, and some of them are even normally self-inserting. They could be (and except for `RET' _should_ be, IMO) just self-inserting in the minibuffer also: `?', `SPC', `C-j' (newline). (After a few decades Emacs finally allowed `SPC' to self-insert, but only for file-name completion.) Add to this the fact that some people use Ido or similar, which reduces normal editing of minibuffer content even further, and it is little wonder that many users do not realize that the minibuffer is an editable buffer - a place where you can edit text in many of the usual ways.