From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kevin Rodgers Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: C-f, C-b, C-n and C-p or right, left, down, up? Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 09:07:36 -0600 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <3F7AEDB8.5050208@yahoo.com> References: <1c58a7c3.0310010003.78c0fa00@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1065022629 22678 80.91.224.253 (1 Oct 2003 15:37:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:37:09 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 01 17:37:07 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A4j2I-0006ck-00 for ; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 17:37:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A4ipd-0002Rz-WC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 11:24:02 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!170.207.51.80!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 31 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 170.207.51.80 Original-X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1065020850 11826224 170.207.51.80 (16 [82742]) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020406 Netscape6/6.2.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:116994 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:12917 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:12917 Barman Brakjoller wrote: > From the Emacs tutorial (C-h t): > > "You can also move the cursor with the arrow keys, if your terminal > has > arrow keys. We recommend learning C-b, C-f, C-n and C-p for three > reasons. First, they work on all kinds of terminals. Second, once > you gain practice at using Emacs, you will find that typing these > Control > characters is faster than typing the arrow keys (because you do not > have to move your hands away from touch-typing position). Third, > once > you form the habit of using these Control character commands, you can > easily learn to use other advanced cursor motion commands as well." > > Is it worth it? I'm using Emacs on w32 and Linux and are quite happy > with my arrow keys, but the argument above about not having to move > away from the main part of the keyboard sounds logical. > > I would like to know about you other guys and gals experiences. For me the third point is the most important: the consistency between the Control-modified, Meta-modified, and Control-Meta-modified keys makes it easy to learn the advanced commands and avoid repetitive C-key commands when 1 M-key or C-M-key will do. And this applies to deletion/killing commands as well as motion commands. -- Kevin Rodgers