From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Fery Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: problem with editing/decoding utf-8 text Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 11:47:32 +0200 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <3ED1E2B4.E7A9326D@innomed.hu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1053942393 22100 80.91.224.249 (26 May 2003 09:46:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 09:46:33 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 26 11:46:32 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19KEYq-0005kJ-00 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 11:46:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19KEZz-0001iy-Ot for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 May 2003 05:47:43 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19KEZo-0001gS-2o for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 26 May 2003 05:47:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19KEZm-0001el-HD for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 26 May 2003 05:47:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [212.24.168.157] (helo=lajos.innomed.hu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19KEZ5-0001Ms-Ay for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 26 May 2003 05:46:47 -0400 Original-Received: from innomed.hu (FERY [100.0.0.218]) by lajos.innomed.hu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id JFB2ZSYW; Mon, 26 May 2003 12:00:42 +0200 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:10184 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:10184 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > Now, no matter what I choose (raw-text, no-conversion, utf-8), it > > modifies all of the utf8 chars which are not fit into the ascii charset. > > It seems, that it inserts a \201 before every char which is not in the > > ascii charset. I.e. if I just load and save a file, emacs does not > > behaves transparently. > > Do you also get the \201 if you choose `utf-8' ? > If so, it's definitely a bug. Yes. > Of course the fact that Emacs happily visited the file in latin-1 but then > refused to save it in latin-1 is a bug. I vaguely seem to remember that > such a bug has been fixed in Emacs-CVS, but it would be great if you could > either check it or report a precise test case. Attached a small text file, which opens as latin-1 at me, and refuse to save. > > 2. What is the difference between raw-text, no-conversion, binary? On > > some places, I can choose any of them, on other places not... This whole > > coding system is a nightmare... :((( > > Yes it is but it's not all Emacs fault. The only alternative would be for I know, I just have to look at my 'another OS' :((( Circum PS: What about the another (losing the file completely) bug?