From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bruce Ingalls Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Why do you use emacs? Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 18:13:43 GMT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <3EC135E4.1030707@SpAmBlOcK.fit-zones.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052849758 24170 80.91.224.249 (13 May 2003 18:15:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 18:15:58 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 13 20:15:54 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19FeJe-0006HM-00 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 20:15:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19FeJE-0000Yk-06 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 May 2003 14:15:28 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!news-west.rr.com!news-server.columbus.rr.com!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 23 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.168.133.58 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com Original-X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1052849623 24.168.133.58 (Tue, 13 May 2003 14:13:43 EDT) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 14:13:43 EDT Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:113184 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:9680 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:9680 Artur Hefczyc wrote: ... > The test version of this guide is here: > http://wttools.sourceforge.net/emacs-stuff/emacsandjdee.html I'd say the same thing as most other comments. In addition, *free* means that Emacs provides the means, and I have the right to configure/adapt Emacs to my needs. For example, there was no market for an editor to highlight Y2K dates in source code, so I adapted Emacs to do this. I could not have afforded a consultant to do this, but Christian Egli, an experienced Elisp developer helped me get started, and we released our work to the community. Only a tool written for programmers and by programmers can be this helpful. The final reason that I use Emacs, is that (enough of) the community does not insult you, when you (politely) ask for help. I appreciate your JDEE installer. Perhaps you can co-ordinate your effort with (my) EMacro project, at