From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: Default value of recenter-redisplay Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 12:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <39f38d2e-56aa-4fc1-b19e-b250f4e3a4e0@default> References: <87h8nuw1be.fsf@gmail.com> <831seyt50x.fsf@gnu.org> <20180429103922929100276@bob.proulx.com> <20180429172941.GB11022@tuxteam.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1525031338 31766 195.159.176.226 (29 Apr 2018 19:48:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 19:48:58 +0000 (UTC) To: tomas@tuxteam.de, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 29 21:48:53 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fCsJZ-000896-QB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2018 21:48:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56608 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fCsLg-0006Eo-8N for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2018 15:51:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37715) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fCsLC-0006Ej-8r for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2018 15:50:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fCsL9-0003jK-4i for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2018 15:50:34 -0400 Original-Received: from userp2130.oracle.com ([156.151.31.86]:49458) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fCsL8-0003j2-L8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2018 15:50:30 -0400 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (userp2130.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2130.oracle.com (8.16.0.22/8.16.0.22) with SMTP id w3TJkuDp147802; Sun, 29 Apr 2018 19:50:28 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2017-10-26; bh=m2QzzLejuxCSMUojmz7wdtGVFe1TFWY5cV+8Vy1SiqA=; b=Vd7yXssT0sSm2u0B3daZNI3gzAOXC93mKlHNbjo3ZY3+QquoEehvhdEUISmbAvcCB6Zd 6rGrYqNFNF2iTbfg+kSbU64U/6ZJESkvKfkarGGXP2kEHGKUHQxGVzq0oh59HPYZrKzZ 3c0lkhcasGXG2oRJUN1oURvYAJoaMpqs69sz8InstYlio31Z8GLECzp2Z615ZGn/+7FF qD5yItwYYTIbdMvbBOGNJ7m10l5h8OyFznJsNM+zqXSNDAXO9UQk2CqoSvjhXpN6f7dE oqD7No0OwUlAJIPUgkGhRZQXQ1Id17BSXV3bNaXKlN20bWcQsCYbM6kzzi9DtgHcdZiC dA== Original-Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by userp2130.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2hmgdja36n-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 29 Apr 2018 19:50:28 +0000 Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w3TJoK5F027257 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 29 Apr 2018 19:50:27 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0008.oracle.com (abhmp0008.oracle.com [141.146.116.14]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w3TJoHjD008759; Sun, 29 Apr 2018 19:50:17 GMT In-Reply-To: <20180429172941.GB11022@tuxteam.de> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4678.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5900 definitions=8878 signatures=668698 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=766 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1711220000 definitions=main-1804290199 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.86 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:116635 Archived-At: > Thirded: the "old" behaviour, on which many people rely should be the > "new" default. Almost always. Default behavior should be decided on a case-by-case basis. Almost always. That goes for an initial decision as well as later reconsideration. But yes, changing an existing default behavior does require at least as much consideration as deciding on a default behavior initially. In this case it was discussed at some length on emacs-devel. But anyone is always welcome to reopen such a discussion there. That's the main place where Emacs design and implementation get discussed and decided.