From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: bk_usenet@yahoo.co.uk (BK) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Emacs on Aqua crippleware or is it just broken? Date: 7 May 2003 16:48:56 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <39d9c156.0305071548.581e848@posting.google.com> References: <39d9c156.0305042200.1639a252@posting.google.com> <39d9c156.0305070651.fca584@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052351428 31618 80.91.224.249 (7 May 2003 23:50:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 23:50:28 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 08 01:50:18 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19DYfy-0008DO-00 for ; Thu, 08 May 2003 01:50:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19DYgF-0003iP-0A for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 May 2003 19:50:35 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.sys.mac.apps Original-Lines: 34 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 211.132.31.10 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1052351337 8878 127.0.0.1 (7 May 2003 23:48:57 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 May 2003 23:48:57 GMT Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:112921 comp.sys.mac.apps:360839 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:9416 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:9416 Barry Margolin wrote ... > It sounds like something is severely screwed up in your configuration, Thank you. I almost thought I was the only one who finds this behaviour odd. > if the traditional Emacs keys don't work. Control-y should paste, and > Control-x Control-c should quit. That's good news. > This is how Emacs is supposed to work on *every* platform, and there's > certainly no intention that it not work on Aqua. Well, there is always a possibility that the implementor decided to do certain things later and instead provide Mac style alternatives in the interim. I certainly wasn't in the position to rule this out. > If it's not working for you, you need to do some investigation into > what's going on. Maybe some environment customization is filtering out the > keystrokes before Emacs sees them. I have ILISP active, but it doesn't change anything if I don't load ILISP and the only thing in my .emacs file is the command to load ILISP. Is there anything else which I wouldn't be aware of? rgds bk PS: I am not the only one having these and similar problems. I have made contact with a few other Lisp newbies who use OSX and they also have reported a variety of Emacs keyboard shortcuts that don't seem to work.