From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: bk_usenet@yahoo.co.uk (BK) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Emacs on Aqua crippleware or is it just broken? Date: 7 May 2003 12:48:02 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <39d9c156.0305071148.2e5e7eba@posting.google.com> References: <39d9c156.0305042200.1639a252@posting.google.com> <39d9c156.0305060558.7cba26d9@posting.google.com> <39d9c156.0305070301.16d27b39@posting.google.com> <8765on6lez.fsf@indigo.shootybangbang.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052337199 31886 80.91.224.249 (7 May 2003 19:53:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 19:53:19 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 07 21:53:16 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19DUya-0008I0-00 for ; Wed, 07 May 2003 21:53:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19DUvp-0001b4-00 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 May 2003 15:50:25 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.sys.mac.apps Original-Lines: 48 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 211.132.31.10 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1052336882 29453 127.0.0.1 (7 May 2003 19:48:02 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 May 2003 19:48:02 GMT Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:112909 comp.sys.mac.apps:360811 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:9405 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:9405 John Paul Wallington wrote ... > Does C-x C-c quit your Emacs ? No it doesn't. Thank you for asking this. > I find it hard to follow what you are talking about. Could you state > which versions of Emacs you have tried, particularly in terms of their > version numbers and where you got them from ? I have tried quite a few and the one I am using now is the least problematic one. It's 21.1.30 and I downloaded it from http://www.porkrind.org/emacs/offsite-mirror1/Emacs-21.1.tar.gz There are two newer versions on the same site, but they are noted as "Beta" and also they won't run under OSX 10.1 (or so it says on the site). > The instructions at http://members.shaw.ca/akochoi-emacs/ explain how > to obtain and build the official development sources. I have > followed those instructions in the past and ended up with an > excellent Emacs for Mac OS X. Fair enough. I haven't actually tried to build it myself. Not because I am lazy, but because most Mac users will shy away from building, they'll rather download one that is already built. I promised the authors of ILISP (an Emacs-external Lisp bridge) to write up a mini-how-to for OSX users to return a favour. Also, the machine I am working on right now is running OSX Server 10.1.5 and there is no way I can upgrade that just for Emacs. (OSX server 10.2 costs $999) If the consensus turns out to be "Emacs builds available for OSX 10.1 are all in a state that has these problems as described" and there are no fixes, then I will just put a CAUTION into the mini-how-to saying that on OSX 10.1 there is really no alternative to building from scratch. However, if there is a chance that this can be fixed, I'd like to put in the fixes into the document, so that OSX 10.1 users can apply them if they have these problems with the pre-built version. Again, thank you so much for taking the problems I described serious. rgds bk