From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: bk_usenet@yahoo.co.uk (BK) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Does Carbon Emacs ignore ~/.emacs ? Date: 3 May 2003 22:29:38 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <39d9c156.0305032129.63ee6ce9@posting.google.com> References: <39d9c156.0305022345.33c850aa@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052026222 26609 80.91.224.249 (4 May 2003 05:30:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 05:30:22 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 04 07:30:19 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19CC4p-0006uy-00 for ; Sun, 04 May 2003 07:30:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19CC58-0007jL-01 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 May 2003 01:30:38 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.sys.mac.apps Original-Lines: 42 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 211.132.31.10 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1052026179 16955 127.0.0.1 (4 May 2003 05:29:39 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 May 2003 05:29:39 GMT Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:112745 comp.sys.mac.apps:360342 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:9240 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:9240 Bijan Soleymani wrote ... > bk_usenet@yahoo.co.uk (BK) writes: > > > Yes, I know there is XEmacs, but I do not wish to use it nor do I wish > > to discuss why I don't want to use it. Carbon Emacs is therefore the > > focus of this question. > > Isn't there a version of emacs for aqua? Yes, that's the "carbonised" Emacs, hence Carbon Emacs, I am talking about. > P.S. I don't know much about Macs, aqua, carbon, zinc, quartz or any > number of other things. I haven't used a macintosh ever. Not to worry. It may seem confusing, but it is actually quite simple. OSX has the ability to run programs written for different APIs and GUIs. The native GUI is called Aqua and it uses an API called Cocoa, which is based on OpenStep/GnuStep. Then there is another API called Carbon, which allows some backwards compatibility to the legacy MacOS before OSX. Applications that use the Carbon API can -in principle- run on both legacy MacOS and OSX/Aqua. Applications that use the Cocoa API cannot run on legacy Macs, but they could be recompiled to run under OpenStep or GnuStep. (Quartz is just a rendering engine inside Aqua, lower level so to speak, not of concern in this context) Then there is X11. X11 apps can run under OSX, but only if you install the X11 GUI in addition to the default Aqua GUI. Thus, if you have an application that has been ported to Aqua (ie Emacs), then there might be things that are different and in order to isolate a problem, it is important not to take things for granted just because they are fine in another version of the same software. rgds bk