From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Repurpose one key and reserve it for third-party packages Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2021 11:07:22 +0000 Message-ID: <3966473cc1f3b3461943@heytings.org> References: <7e12c1c3c1aae58993e2@heytings.org> <8ed9b43502da52e07ff5@heytings.org> <8ed9b43502576d94a2c8@heytings.org> <8ed9b43502e36d186bcb@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20668"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 10 12:09:53 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l9nNZ-0005HU-0v for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 12:09:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57294 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9nNY-0005JG-3r for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 06:09:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50316) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9nLB-0002ZG-Is for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 06:07:25 -0500 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:44808) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9nLA-0001n7-2B for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 06:07:25 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1612955242; bh=uJVn/l7Qt2VI8Wr/Jb2B0wWtQMvz8fRjF24hymGstKI=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=f0mLd+vtilwFykGXv16ilB0qo3GAHKTsDR/stOCgKx9Jydn1VSSAAmOHTmGXucWIG RoYUDSL/WA7OlsqgXJ1VterCkJLRikwr/uXAaW3eGDk5aUkoXA0CjbJdOL/VokFBPP PnuQGNc7ZTs4T3KBvoIutQHK8DTBnuxx5UWnPEQKzB8EzuMQBRliKUCv9S3yBybPK2 3bHQOiNjtf6hCWl7bDje1wGGJASejP4Y03NS09po8FdRW6HxCdFhghdstlOCeazsFy /lPd5nT5SIOAnF6nG/WsSMoUwUBnMZdMH3/AfpIm2lYCWn3AOtMbKxOC0X6W4BiY8h 78QtxGBNc7vKg== In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:127765 Archived-At: >>> My proposal is to separate any and all such possible default >>> key-binding _changes_ from the simple act of declaring the keys so far >>> unbound by default to be reserved for 3rd-party code. >> >> That just can't happen, it would be a arbitrary constraint that would >> impair Emacs' evolution, it would mean that hundreds of small or large >> potential improvements would not be possible anymore. > > Not at all. It would mean that Emacs would try harder not to add new > default key bindings. > I see your point, but two maintainers clearly replied to your proposal and said they will never agree with it. IMO it would be better to take that as a postulate for further reflection.