From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Fu Yuan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Someone start maintaining luddites.el Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2021 14:44:26 -0800 Message-ID: <3937A76B-3194-4C43-8380-A4434850D839@gmail.com> References: <87a6gkv7yj.fsf@iki.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4368"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Colin Baxter , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, =?utf-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin_Le_Gouguec?= To: Teemu Likonen Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 28 23:44:59 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n2LDH-0000vR-1Y for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 28 Dec 2021 23:44:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52152 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2LDF-0001yu-JE for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 28 Dec 2021 17:44:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50996) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2LCp-0001ym-MI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Dec 2021 17:44:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [2607:f8b0:4864:20::829] (port=40846 helo=mail-qt1-x829.google.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2LCo-0001dX-73 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Dec 2021 17:44:31 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-qt1-x829.google.com with SMTP id l17so17402284qtk.7 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 2021 14:44:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version:subject:date:message-id :references:cc:in-reply-to:to; bh=o/a7qlqzph4M2Z41laobtgL7pvMVgQhcbyuoJWAhuzg=; b=CUTcr8QwLCMDjnZd15NBpWCsUvOqQoqkv58ph0mt4LVeOQOmnPhcmE1C1Y8o+HNSec oFZ9O3KAEYpkFQK91aPVOHmWZ3sQ6s3lzKhzh6WNoMTUM8onzdzuGv0JDLj/8Xi3JAQv IbAG644b6C5oSGXH4iwxoG6ihpIas0nDihp1PPSxVF4HVgLS0/lPtp760stVEc83Q063 6GDpidg123i5mb6vB1ShEzXgC+0kvQrocxqQZVI6miiIaZFfzd7rWUhEzixmCsdstQNg IKl5ExxuJU49vBHfpiTvKd+uyG3FYinNkUSfFitZUGFrSJbw3PvdNQwovYVtD/7kVrVd 8XMQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version :subject:date:message-id:references:cc:in-reply-to:to; bh=o/a7qlqzph4M2Z41laobtgL7pvMVgQhcbyuoJWAhuzg=; b=SjC83u1nJ2h1pW/0/1+qqeOI8chXvNYNAKHrQ1Wt6IiyskGBPw63Xgg1fZCAjzWe8/ NYNq/n4qijN1Q1lYx8kHYdTWCzD9IcIneoPt23zByf9F3Aje3WJgAuxhPMbkawCyZBuD YnvnBgQ6mMKjb1abh2J6rE4+ZYic2/xQwv5XkhcYluIN05YumOVXYYhADNG3AecgaAut oL1cHMi1dty41Wz2+/l+4bpjTHxygNACUngW15qDmNDEii9RHsrXgamdwwWtx7q47cAG +NZCh/80rDfNOnAZ54Sf605zi/su6cD8yCBtRyj9GAXeddFSSxYr/jH5kgcXFmZUztCE GM8w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531fguV5YvHLNEo1q00QAffFTAJJpAKY0NRPEeJLwnNvVNDu4P5d gpHQcbjRqxCAwmbNrRiRncE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyBW6o/I1mfNuPjYDr5AFeEVJh7iAH1M2owx5Fq710XrGxeFQeKqEBegJ59GqdKgU2/LX08vw== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:5fcd:: with SMTP id k13mr20434412qta.363.1640731468826; Tue, 28 Dec 2021 14:44:28 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from smtpclient.apple ([2600:1700:2ec7:8c90:e12b:f3b4:e9fd:7a7]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r16sm16521898qta.46.2021.12.28.14.44.28 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 28 Dec 2021 14:44:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87a6gkv7yj.fsf@iki.fi> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (18H17) X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2607:f8b0:4864:20::829 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::829; envelope-from=casouri@gmail.com; helo=mail-qt1-x829.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -12 X-Spam_score: -1.3 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:135057 Archived-At: > =E5=9C=A8 2021=E5=B9=B412=E6=9C=8828=E6=97=A5=EF=BC=8C=E4=B8=8A=E5=8D=8811= :37=EF=BC=8CTeemu Likonen =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A >=20 > =EF=BB=BF* 2021-12-28 07:32:14+0000, Colin Baxter wrote: >=20 >> I agree. I personally don't like having to alter my ~/.emacs just to >> stay the same. I think it should be the other way round - but what do >> I know? >=20 > Maybe don't ask other people (Emacs developers) to do things for you. > Create and maintain an Emacs package which keeps current and future > Emacses just like "in the old days." The package wouldn't do much, just > gradually add configuration options which disable everything new. I > wouldn't use it myself but I think some/many people would be grateful. > Name it luddites.el, or something. >=20 I think similar thing has been brought up when we were discussing changing d= efaults in new Emacs, but I don=E2=80=99t remember the conclusion. Were ther= e any problems with it, is anyoneworking on that? Yuan=